jon_j_rambo Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 I'd like to see some realistic American paratroops. These guys were flatout badass. Nothing but heart. The American paratroop had incredible morale, fighting spirit, military brains, and the heart to endure. Rambo personally salutes the American Paratroops. Rambo also would like to recognize this legend, General James Gavin. No surprise he's from the mountains of Pennsylvania, greatest stock of people in the world. Time for a brew, cheers! The Commanding Officer of the 82nd Airborne Division that jumped in Normandy on D-Day, 1944, Major General James Gavin was raised in the Dooleyville patch outside Mt. Carmel. "Born in 1907, James Gavin was the son of an unwed Irish immigrant. He was placed in a New York City orphanage at the age of one or two. He was eventually adopted by Martin and Mary Gavin, a Pennsylvania coal-mining family. His youth taught him the discipline and hard work that would pay dividends throughout his life. He enlisted in the US Army at age 17. Showing promise, he was selected for admittance to West Point." "Gen. Gavin came to be known as the "jumping general" because he parachuted with combat troops during World War II. ...While a paratrooper, he led assaults on Sicily and on Salerno Bay, Italy, in 1943, reaching the rank of brigadier general, and jumped with the parachute assault section of the division on the first night of the Normandy Invasion (June 5-6, 1944). Elements of Gavin's section took the town of Sainte-Mère-Église and guarded river crossings on the flank of the Utah Beach landing area. Gavin was later made major general at age 37, the youngest major general since Gen. George Armstrong Custer. He commanded the 82nd Airborne during operations in The Netherlands and his division later fought in Germany until the German army surrendered in 1945." "During the 1950's, Gen. Gavin was head of Army research and development. He became a strong opponent of President Dwight D. Eisenhower's defense policy because of its dependence on nuclear weapons. After his retirement in 1958, he served as ambassador to France (1961-63) and became a prominent critic of the Vietnam War. Gen. Gavin was the author of such books as Airborne Warfare (1947), Crisis Now (1968), and the autobiographical On to Berlin (1978)." Gen. James Gavin died in 1990. The Coal Region is proud to call him one of our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_j_rambo Posted June 20, 2006 Author Share Posted June 20, 2006 Ronald Speirs 101st Airborne, Easy Company Dude, you were badass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Which WW2 parachutists were not "badass"? Those Fallschirmjaeger had to have guts jumping with nothing but pistols, with their chute's attached to their waists so they fell in a prone position, while hte British and Polish troops at Arnhem were hardly pussies! Or is this just more mindless drivel from you John? If you want your para's to be "badass" then you'd better make sure they've got IW and AT 3, or else all they're going to be is ass kicked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_j_rambo Posted June 20, 2006 Author Share Posted June 20, 2006 and the whole congregation said,"NUTS". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuniworth Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 If we are talking missing divisional units(this is a corps/army sized game btw) what about adding the largest paratroop-strength in the world; the soviet unions airborne corps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFL Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Better close this thread soon before more postings, John has been to the diesel oil again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzgndr Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 This reminded me. I earned my jump wings 25 years ago. Time flies! And paratroops ARE in SC2, so that's a good enhancement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisND Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 John, I AM an 82nd paratrooper, and they are represented fine enough in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzeh Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 You've got to be pretty badass to jump out of a perfectly good airplane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisND Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 No, just pretty stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blashy Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Originally posted by Normal Dude: No, just pretty stupid. Just like a submariner, you have to be pretty stupid to go down with a sinking ship . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisND Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 At least I have a reserve parachute and I dont have to share bunks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blashy Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Originally posted by Normal Dude: At least I have a reserve parachute and I dont have to share bunks. Hot bunking has been gone for a good 40 years now. I actually slept on torpedo racks in the forward torpedo room. Best place on the boat since you have no noise, just one person on duty in the room reading a book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisND Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 So I take that means they dont have soap dispensers on the floor of the shower room either? Sorry that was an Army joke we had going around for the Marines . Speaking of wierd sleeping places, my favorite was the C-17 ramp. Acted like a good head prop and plenty of space to stretch your legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartknock3r Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Glad i was never in the military, can they draft 15 year olds anyway? :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aesopo Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Eventually, the way we are going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scook Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Since the airborne represent one division, and their strength is equivalent to an army, I think thats pretty bad-ass. The only change I think is USA should be able to buy 2 airborne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iriemon Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Plus, paratroop units were lightly armed. While man for man they were elite troops, no doubt, because of their limited size and equipment it would be unrealistic to make them equivalent of a super army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolend Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Keep in mind that the US para army includes the 82nd the 101st and there was one more airborn division, sorry I forget the number. So that one US para unit holds them all. What I find suprising is that Germany is allowed 2 para armys, that seems high to me. Being Ex Army I have all kinds of jokes about Sailors, Airmen and Marines. Would openly tell them to sailors and airmen but never to a 'jarhead' unless my friends and I were in the mood for a good fight and there was like 10 of us and only one of them LOL. [ June 21, 2006, 02:45 PM: Message edited by: Rolend ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Ranger Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 17th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoat Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 And 11th, and 13th. The Germans had 13 parachute divisions, which was more than double the number of American divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 How many of them were jump trained???? See Battle of Ortona - even by the end of 1943 paratroopers weer not getting parachute training. In 1944 parachute training was officially abandoned, and it was only after this that the number of Fallschirmjager divisions was expanded - based around cadres of the former 7th FJ Div that was broken up to provide them. [ June 21, 2006, 06:12 PM: Message edited by: Stalin's Organist ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_j_rambo Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 U.S. Paratroops were in a class by themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolend Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Oh that is right, sorry Rambo forgot they were all Rambo clones and could kick supermans butt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck_para Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 All the Allied paras were about the same quality. You can also discuss units like the Devil's Brigade which has been considered of an even higher standard. Within the game these units are hard to model. I think the staus quo is OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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