Degus Posted May 9, 2002 Share Posted May 9, 2002 Just when I thought I'd seen it all. In a current PBEM game where I'm getting seriously whacked, my bold opponent parks a Tiger 20m from a HQ unit (with 2 casualties) hidden in a light building. HQ throws a grenade and immobilizes the Tiger ( hit a track I guess) and after surviving 3 more turns throws another which knocks the Tiger out..Is this in anyway possible? A buttoned Tiger knocked out by a frag grenade? and should I leave the HQ where it is or give it a medal and send it home to sell bonds for the war effort...? Anyone seen this before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patgod Posted May 9, 2002 Share Posted May 9, 2002 the "throw nade" graphic is used for "close assault doing what ever freaky stuff you can think of to make this thing die" when attacking tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affentitten Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 Originally posted by Degus: Is this in anyway possible? A buttoned Tiger knocked out by a frag grenade? It was done at Arnhem by paras with gammon bombs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward_the_Surly Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 Gammon bombs were a heck of alot more powerfull than hand grenades. Packed full of pastique explosive goodness! cause I can't spell [ May 11, 2002, 02:29 AM: Message edited by: Edward_the_Surly ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degus Posted May 11, 2002 Author Share Posted May 11, 2002 These guys didn't have gammon bombs...Just two HQ guys with small arms, grenades, and mucho huevos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cortes Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 That means eggs, pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon J. Scudworth Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 That means eggs, pal.I remember reading a phrase in Che Guevara's "Motorcycle Diaries" that used the word to mean "balls." Maybe it's just a Chilean thing? -Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cortes Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 Maybe. It's usually conojes. Huevos is a laughable way to say it, though. So do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitlers underpants Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 in a fairly recent pbem game, ive had a 50 cal machine gun knock out a king tiger!!!from behind at 50 metres,though the king tiger had been immobolised and its gun had been hit,scary or what???,the crew bailed out and i killed them too.just my 2 cents worth!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degus Posted May 11, 2002 Author Share Posted May 11, 2002 Having a big set of huevos didnt help that HQ much..they got fried last turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeDog Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 The grenade throwing against tanks in CMBO represents an abstracted close assault on the tank - basically, infantry in very close proximity to the tank doing whatever they can to knock the tank out - sticking small arms in viewports, trying to force grenades down exhaust ports, etc. Without demo charges, rifle grenades or panzerfausts the chance of infantry close assault successfully knocking out the tank is very small, but it can happen. This is borne out by historical evidence - Saving Private Ryan-type desparation attacks on tanks work just often enough to make for inspiring reading. Most of the time they just get men killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagdwyrm Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 I immobilized an opponents Tiger on a hill with a .50 MG. Probably about 500m away. Hard to believe but it happened. That is one amazing machine gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soddball Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 Playing the Villiers-Bocage scenario as Axis, Wittman's Tiger was immobilised on second 1 of turn 1, by a 50cal from a halftrack 300m away. :eek: Needless to say, that caused me some distress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auggy Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 How can a 50cal do that? I would think this nearly impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 I have done the same thing with a HQ unit against a King Tiger. The HQ unit also gunned down the KT crew as they ran down a road crying. My favorite part is when I hear my men yell, "Yeah! Got 'em!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agua Posted May 15, 2002 Share Posted May 15, 2002 re - .50 cal immobilizing Tiger - I don't know whether it's possible or not, but it wouldn't surprise me if a .50 could pop the tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Manuel Posted May 15, 2002 Share Posted May 15, 2002 Originally posted by Agua: re - .50 cal immobilizing Tiger - I don't know whether it's possible or not, but it wouldn't surprise me if a .50 could pop the tracks.Maybe it could wreck the drive sprocket...not sure but methinx that is the 'road wheel' that does the work...? Anyhow I have a pic of a KO'd Tiger I that has many many smallish holes poked in the road wheels...but what do I know those could be 75mm AP holes, not .50cal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagdwyrm Posted May 15, 2002 Share Posted May 15, 2002 The Tiger I immobiled was perched on at the edge of a ridge above the .50 cal. I imagined perhaps the bullets wreacked havoc on the undercarriage, even if that stuff isnt exposed to much I'd imagine the armor there isnt all that thick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alsatian Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Is tank immobilisation always mechanical in CMBO? As unlikely as it is, can a .50 cal MG immobilise an unbuttoned KT when he mushes the tank commanders exposed head? I would imagine a crew would freak out when their commander's decapitated body flops down into the compartment. As far as the fighting abilities of HQ units, I find them more stubborn than regular squads to break, and more effective with their fire considering their small size. Is that true, or a misperception? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switch_Back Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 It does not seem to be a mis-conception of yours I have the very same idea, HQ units do put up a better fight and are more powerful than a regular infantry unit, but this is probably because HQ units would often be made up of more experienced and better troops, and this is balanced out by the fact that HQ units do not carry AT weapons, so they can not be used to, too great a benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustang Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 HE-LLO! Have you forgot how powerfull and big .50's are? They made a 55. cal Boys Anti-Tank Rifle during WW11! +High rate of fire Doo the math!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Manuel Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Originally posted by Degus: Having a big set of huevos didnt help that HQ much..they got fried last turn.I never understood why the AI will charge its HQ units forward to their deaths...until someone said that they do that b/c their firepower is only decent at short-range, hence the charge...its funny to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switch_Back Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Definatley, its loads of fun watching the stupid AI throw its HQ units forwards, because they just get mowed down by machine gun fire, or pummeled by tanks, and then the AI is left with low morale troops, making things somewhat easier.... Anyone realise how effective a zook troop, supported by a Comapany HQ is?? hehe used properly, this is a very devestating anti tank team!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike the wino2 Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 A zook team and a company HQ? :confused: Dunno, always play Axis when I TCP or PBEM and its always 2 shreks with a platoon or company HQ. Much better chance of at least one getting a shot off before the tank starts raining death down on my units. Especially if you can spread out a little bit. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catullus Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 Originally posted by hitlers underpants: ...50 cal machine gun knock out a king tiger!!!from behind at 50 metres,though the king tiger had been immobolised and its gun had been hit,scary or what???...I think they just bailed. Imagine sitting in an unmoving, unarmed steel chest in the middle of a battle field. The sensible thing to do is to try to sneak away, don't you think? Crew's bad luck was that the 50cal was behind them, else they could have escaped. C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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