Mad Russian Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 What would a single square width be on a 1:25000 map scale? If I remember correctly and I probably don't I was thinking the square width on a 1:50000 map is 1km. Which should make a 1:25000 square width 1/2a km. Is this right? :confused: Panther Commander 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 You could go by the scale. 4cm = 1km 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 In Finnish 1:20000 maps the grid has 1 km intervals, if that's any help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Originally posted by Panther Commander: What would a single square width be on a 1:25000 map scale? If I remember correctly and I probably don't I was thinking the square width on a 1:50000 map is 1km. Which should make a 1:25000 square width 1/2a km. Is this right? :confused: Panther Commander Measure the squares. If the square is 1 cm wide, it represents 25,000 cm. If the square is 1 inch wide, it represents 25,000 inches. etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Are you talking about the Universal Transverse Mercator grid squares on DOD maps? At 1:50,000 and 1:25,000 scales the grid squares are 1 km. by 1 km., and are printed in black. At 1:250,000 the grid squares are 10 km. by 10 km., and are printed in blue. There should be a grid box in your map legend telling you all the information, including how to estimate coordinates to the nearest 10 meters. The grid box is normally printed in the same color as the grid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Russian Posted January 21, 2004 Author Share Posted January 21, 2004 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Panther Commander: What would a single square width be on a 1:25000 map scale? If I remember correctly and I probably don't I was thinking the square width on a 1:50000 map is 1km. Which should make a 1:25000 square width 1/2a km. Is this right? :confused: Panther Commander Measure the squares. If the square is 1 cm wide, it represents 25,000 cm. If the square is 1 inch wide, it represents 25,000 inches. etc. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Whose map of where? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Russian Posted January 21, 2004 Author Share Posted January 21, 2004 Originally posted by flamingknives: Whose map of where? Apparently it is a British Battle map of Operation Goodwood. Panther Commander 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Ah, I see the problem then. I suppose the legend has been deleted form the internet scan also. I can check my own 1:25,000 maps at home. 1 map square was usually 1 km or 1 mile, can't remember which now. Not all maps were necessarily the same. I do have the Michelin Normandy map and can measure the distances between some of the villages for you, that ought to help determine the map scale. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMuhammed Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 On most U.S. maps at least, a grid square is always 1km. Not sure if the same system is used in the RA. When we trained together we all used the same maps, ours, but again I don't know if that was their standard or if it applied back to WWII. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 If it is a WW II era map, it's probably still using Imperial units, but the squares could be 1,000 yards or something like that. Gets confusing sometimes. Might help if you give us the URL of the source so we can take a look at it ourselves. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 No, if it was Imperial the scale would be 1:67,360 (or sumfink like that) so that the squares were some multiple of inch-to-mile. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Originally posted by JonS: No, if it was Imperial the scale would be 1:67,360 (or sumfink like that) so that the squares were some multiple of inch-to-mile. I didn't think of that. You're probably right though I couldn't muster the brain power to check your math. Michael Edit: I just mustered the brain power and the correct answer is 1:63,360. [ January 21, 2004, 09:26 PM: Message edited by: Michael Emrys ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Here's the map I did of the same region Steve is talking about. Don't know if we have the link to the map in question, but it covers the same area as this one. Mine has a scale, so you should be able to figure it out close enough to tell how big the grid squares are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Pretty map, Michael. Did you draw that yourself or find it somewhere? Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Originally posted by Michael Emrys: Pretty map, Michael. Did you draw that yourself or find it somewhere? Michael I scanned two maps from the Canadian official history and pinned them together, then coloured everything by hand, added the insignia, etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 I like showing the locations of formations by their badges, it makes it easier to follow the flow of battle than just generic arrows. If you ever have the time, you should consider doing a series of such maps covering as much of the war as you can squeeze in. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 I have a 1:50,000 map of Tobruch (with defensive positions marked with red pencil) scanned from from 2AIF's 6th Division War Diary. Using the scale on this map I measured the squares as being exactly 1km by 1km. Hope this helped. I think I have a 1:25,000 map of Bardia somewhere, will see if I can find it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Originally posted by Michael Emrys: I like showing the locations of formations by their badges, it makes it easier to follow the flow of battle than just generic arrows. If you ever have the time, you should consider doing a series of such maps covering as much of the war as you can squeeze in. Michael They ARE fun to do...but time consuming. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 :cool: :cool: :cool: Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pak40 Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Originally posted by Panther Commander: What would a single square width be on a 1:25000 map scale? If I remember correctly and I probably don't I was thinking the square width on a 1:50000 map is 1km. Which should make a 1:25000 square width 1/2a km. Is this right? :confused: Sorry, I'm a little late to the discussion but if this helps: 1:25000 scale is 1 inch = 2083.33333 ft OR 1 cm = 250 meters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Russian Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 Originally posted by Pak40: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Panther Commander: What would a single square width be on a 1:25000 map scale? If I remember correctly and I probably don't I was thinking the square width on a 1:50000 map is 1km. Which should make a 1:25000 square width 1/2a km. Is this right? :confused: Sorry, I'm a little late to the discussion but if this helps: 1:25000 scale is 1 inch = 2083.33333 ft OR 1 cm = 250 meters </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L4Pilot Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Originally posted by Panther Commander: What would a single square width be on a 1:25000 map scale? If I remember correctly and I probably don't I was thinking the square width on a 1:50000 map is 1km. Which should make a 1:25000 square width 1/2a km. Is this right? :confused: Panther Commander Does the map have longitude and latitude markings? L4 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Russian Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 Originally posted by L4Pilot: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Panther Commander: What would a single square width be on a 1:25000 map scale? If I remember correctly and I probably don't I was thinking the square width on a 1:50000 map is 1km. Which should make a 1:25000 square width 1/2a km. Is this right? :confused: Panther Commander Does the map have longitude and latitude markings? L4 </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L4Pilot Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Originally posted by Panther Commander: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Does the map have longitude and latitude markings? L4 No just the overlayed squares. Nothing else. But the original map may have and I just can't see them. Panther Commander [/QB]</font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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