Hensworth Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 ???? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 Could be a fold in the ground between the target and firing unit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJK Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 Wouldn't a fold in the road affect visibility and not exposure? Looks like the visibility is there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securityguard Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 Well it's possible they see the mens helmets or something running across, but of course that's going to be tough to hit. Only way I see 0% exposure working in that situation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tar Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Big potholes? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussi Köhler Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Small rodent-soldiers? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatEtr Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 This isn't really all that rare. I see it about every 3-4 battles or so. It just basically one of those times where your unit knows the enemy unit is there, but can't really see them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haohmaru Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 You usually see this when targeting with a gun. It makes perfect sense I think: the gun can see the unit but has no LOS to the ground on which they are standing. So, while it can see them, it has no way to actually shoot directly at them. I've never seen it happen while targeting with squads/mgs etc. This has been around since CMBB, I've never seen it with CMBO though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Originally posted by Haohmaru: You usually see this when targeting with a gun. It makes perfect sense I think: the gun can see the unit but has no LOS to the ground on which they are standing. So, while it can see them, it has no way to actually shoot directly at them. I've never seen it happen while targeting with squads/mgs etc. This has been around since CMBB, I've never seen it with CMBO though Infantry does not get an "exposure" report when targeting anything. IIRC, its only guns, MG's and tanks which get the exposure reading when targeting an enemy unit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeDog Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Originally posted by V- Die Hand die Verletzt: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Haohmaru: You usually see this when targeting with a gun. It makes perfect sense I think: the gun can see the unit but has no LOS to the ground on which they are standing. So, while it can see them, it has no way to actually shoot directly at them. I've never seen it happen while targeting with squads/mgs etc. This has been around since CMBB, I've never seen it with CMBO though Infantry does not get an "exposure" report when targeting anything. IIRC, its only guns, MG's and tanks which get the exposure reading when targeting an enemy unit. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 What troubles me is that the picture of the scene shows a pretty clear and still quite light blue targeting line to the target so I wouldn't have thought it was a case of a very marginal ability to spot the target from the firers POV. It does seem pretty weird to say the least. If that targeting line was a very dark and marginal colour then I could rationalise the 0% exposure but not the way it's portrayed in this screenshot. Regards Jim R. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hensworth Posted January 15, 2004 Author Share Posted January 15, 2004 The target line came from a tank. It most definitely could see the squad because it had already targeted it by itself. If you look carefully you can see the end of the red line in the shot. Exposure has nothing to do with the type of unit doing the targeting, AFAIK. It is determined only by the terrain type a unit is sitting / moving in and on a road should be a darn sight higher than 0%. 0% means this unit is impervious to incoming fire, whether from the unit from which I'm checking LOS here or anything else that chooses to fire at it. I find this rather disturbing as I've always thought that infantry crossing a road is an excellent target to open up on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 I've seen it occasionally. It is apparently a crest line effect. When the target is lower than some of the intervening ground, you will sometimes get a grazing LOS. There are no obstructions, in the sense of trees brush etc in the way, so the LOS line can be bright blue. But the men targeted are below the level of an actual straight-line from shooter to target. The game treats this somewhat like a wall, which also gives 0% exposure to troops heads-down behind it. If they are close enough to the crest they will be visible and exposed. A little farther back, and you can see they are there - they have height - but can't actually hit them - the ground level they are on is below the straight-line LOS. Mortars can still hurt them. Direct fire shells will either hit the ground in the way in front (short), or sail clear over them (long). The % exposure number warns you not to waste your shots on them from that position, in effect. If you hunt forward a bit, farther up a slope the shooter is on, you can often get a normal exposure number. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardaukar Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 That can be explained by fact that even when tank commander sees the squad from his open hatch/cupola, tank's armament that is lower, cannot hit them due to crest blocking it. One explanation to situation. Cheers, M.S. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hensworth Posted January 15, 2004 Author Share Posted January 15, 2004 Thanks, Jason C, that explains it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenSplatton Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Small rodent-soldiers? Did someone say Rodent? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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