Hans Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Who can translate? I think the red guys are French AT-guns (???) TIA 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted February 19, 2004 Author Share Posted February 19, 2004 Who can translate? I think the red guys are French AT-guns (???) TIA 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Hmm ... isn't that the symbol for rocket artillery? I thought AT units was more like a "T" shaped symbol (i.e. without the inverted "v" at the bottom). Could very well be wrong though. Also the Germans changed the symbol sets at least twice I think during WWII. The big flag is a standard infantry battalion symbol. Appart from that, I don't recognize much! Edit: You could ask on the Feldgrau forum. [ February 19, 2004, 08:59 AM: Message edited by: Hawk ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Hmm ... isn't that the symbol for rocket artillery? I thought AT units was more like a "T" shaped symbol (i.e. without the inverted "v" at the bottom). Could very well be wrong though. Also the Germans changed the symbol sets at least twice I think during WWII. The big flag is a standard infantry battalion symbol. Appart from that, I don't recognize much! Edit: You could ask on the Feldgrau forum. [ February 19, 2004, 08:59 AM: Message edited by: Hawk ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Hans - I have a book at home with the symbols and their meaning. Unless someone answers the question for you earlier, I'll answer them this evening when I return from home. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Hans - I have a book at home with the symbols and their meaning. Unless someone answers the question for you earlier, I'll answer them this evening when I return from home. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bil Hardenberger Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 This page should have everything you need: German Tactical Markings The red markings show heavy MG's in position. The black markings are all upside down, most represent MG's also, but you also have mortars in there and Infantry guns, all are dug in (except for the mortars). The curved lines represent infantry Company entrenchments, the 6.Ko. is broken down into Platoon size elements in the drawing. Hard to tell what echelon the red infantry entrenchments represent, perhaps they are Platoon sized as well, based on their size. The box with the 5 in it is the 5.Ko which looks like it is in reserve. The cross sitting on a black dot is an aid station. Bil [ February 19, 2004, 10:05 AM: Message edited by: Bil Hardenberger ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bil Hardenberger Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 This page should have everything you need: German Tactical Markings The red markings show heavy MG's in position. The black markings are all upside down, most represent MG's also, but you also have mortars in there and Infantry guns, all are dug in (except for the mortars). The curved lines represent infantry Company entrenchments, the 6.Ko. is broken down into Platoon size elements in the drawing. Hard to tell what echelon the red infantry entrenchments represent, perhaps they are Platoon sized as well, based on their size. The box with the 5 in it is the 5.Ko which looks like it is in reserve. The cross sitting on a black dot is an aid station. Bil [ February 19, 2004, 10:05 AM: Message edited by: Bil Hardenberger ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Arabic numbers are company, roman numerals are battalions. You have the 1st Company of the 91st Regiment on the far left, with the 7th Company and 6th company to the right. "Zug" means platoon. The little circles represent wheels, or motorized units. The flag with the number represents the 2nd Battalion of the 40th Regiment. I presume these are Infanterie regiments. The red semi-circles are defensive positions. The black semi-circles with lines are battle positions or lines of advance. Some of these symbols are explained at my site at http://members.shaw.ca/grossdeutschland/vehicle.htm about halfway down the page. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Arabic numbers are company, roman numerals are battalions. You have the 1st Company of the 91st Regiment on the far left, with the 7th Company and 6th company to the right. "Zug" means platoon. The little circles represent wheels, or motorized units. The flag with the number represents the 2nd Battalion of the 40th Regiment. I presume these are Infanterie regiments. The red semi-circles are defensive positions. The black semi-circles with lines are battle positions or lines of advance. Some of these symbols are explained at my site at http://members.shaw.ca/grossdeutschland/vehicle.htm about halfway down the page. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bil Hardenberger Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Michael might be right about the black curved lines representing lines of advance, that makes sense, they are probably assault positions. However, he is incorrect about the black dots representing motorized units. These are MG units. The ones with the upside down V represent heavy MG's, the MG symbol with the little black dot on the bottom (remember the black symbols are upside down) represents a single weapon. Bil [ February 19, 2004, 10:28 AM: Message edited by: Bil Hardenberger ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bil Hardenberger Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Michael might be right about the black curved lines representing lines of advance, that makes sense, they are probably assault positions. However, he is incorrect about the black dots representing motorized units. These are MG units. The ones with the upside down V represent heavy MG's, the MG symbol with the little black dot on the bottom (remember the black symbols are upside down) represents a single weapon. Bil [ February 19, 2004, 10:28 AM: Message edited by: Bil Hardenberger ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Originally posted by Bil Hardenberger: Michael might be right . . . However, he is incorrect . . .Wow! It's not even 9 AM here yet and it's already becoming a great day. =) Kitty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Originally posted by Bil Hardenberger: Michael might be right . . . However, he is incorrect . . .Wow! It's not even 9 AM here yet and it's already becoming a great day. =) Kitty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Originally posted by Kitty: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Bil Hardenberger: Michael might be right . . . However, he is incorrect . . .Wow! It's not even 9 AM here yet and it's already becoming a great day. =) Kitty </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Originally posted by Kitty: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Bil Hardenberger: Michael might be right . . . However, he is incorrect . . .Wow! It's not even 9 AM here yet and it's already becoming a great day. =) Kitty </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Kitty: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Bil Hardenberger: Michael might be right . . . However, he is incorrect . . .Wow! It's not even 9 AM here yet and it's already becoming a great day. =) Kitty </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Kitty: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Bil Hardenberger: Michael might be right . . . However, he is incorrect . . .Wow! It's not even 9 AM here yet and it's already becoming a great day. =) Kitty </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Oops....Bill is obviously correct about the dots; I was confusing them with circles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Oops....Bill is obviously correct about the dots; I was confusing them with circles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted February 19, 2004 Author Share Posted February 19, 2004 The links were useful, thanks. Seems we have symbols for Hvy MGs in position and (6??) light infantry guns also in position. The rectangles may mean transport columns but the litle dangly part didn't show up on any of the sites I've seen. The thermometer with dots I believe is a mortar. I think the French are outnumbered in this one! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted February 19, 2004 Author Share Posted February 19, 2004 The links were useful, thanks. Seems we have symbols for Hvy MGs in position and (6??) light infantry guns also in position. The rectangles may mean transport columns but the litle dangly part didn't show up on any of the sites I've seen. The thermometer with dots I believe is a mortar. I think the French are outnumbered in this one! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 So tell us, are you working on some 1940 goodness? Weren't you the one posting about what tanks to substitue for CharB, etc.? We gonna see a nice Stonne scenario from you or somefink? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bil Hardenberger Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Originally posted by Hans: The links were useful, thanks. Seems we have symbols for Hvy MGs in position and (6??) light infantry guns also in position.I believe that would be 9 guns. 2 HMG's at each of those positions. The rectangles may mean transport columns but the litle dangly part didn't show up on any of the sites I've seen.The "dangly part" indicates a mortar (it is upside down)... you have a heavy mortar (on the right) and a mortar platoon on the right has 2 tubes. I would assume the mortar Platoon (left) has only one weapon. The thermometer with dots I believe is a mortar.As indicated above, that is a single MG in position. A vertical line with dots on each side is the symbol for an MG. The additional symbols on the bottom indicate weight, transport type, or other data. edit: after looking at this again, I think what we have is an LMG taken from an Infantry Squad. The dot normally represents a single infantryman, in this case, the dot combined with the MG symbol would indicate a single LMG normally inherent to an Infantry squad. I think the French are outnumbered in this one!You are right about that Bil [ February 19, 2004, 01:34 PM: Message edited by: Bil Hardenberger ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 So tell us, are you working on some 1940 goodness? Weren't you the one posting about what tanks to substitue for CharB, etc.? We gonna see a nice Stonne scenario from you or somefink? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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