Cessna Posted April 29, 2004 Share Posted April 29, 2004 Does anyone remember this old board wargame from the late 70's? It was a very detailed Avalon Hill game about small-unit combat in the Galaza battles. Has anyone converted the scenarios to CMAK? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cessna Posted April 29, 2004 Author Share Posted April 29, 2004 Whoops - found them over at the Scenario Depot. Sorry about the waste of bandwidth, folks. http://ns9.super-hosts.com/%7Edragonlair.net/combatmission/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Is that Galaza in Italy or Gazala in North Africa? Regards Jim R. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brent Pollock Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 ( Gazala He found my conversions of TOBRUK scenarios at the Scenario Depot. Originally posted by Kanonier Reichmann: Is that Galaza in Italy or Gazala in North Africa? Regards Jim R. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodious Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 I played Tobruk at a hobby shop in Saint Cloud when I was ten against the equivalent of "Comic Book Guy". As he blew my tanks to pieces he explained to me that I needed to knock out the tracks of his tanks first then drive around to their side to take them out. Such was my introduction to the world of wargaming. I don't really know that I got what he was saying at the time. . . . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Ten is awful young to try to come to terms with a game as complex as Tobruk. You should have started off with something simpler, like AH's Afrika Korps. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cessna Posted May 5, 2004 Author Share Posted May 5, 2004 I started at roughly age 10 with PanzerBlitz. And I've never looked back... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 My first wargame was also Afrika Corps but that was before Avalon Hill took over the original Jedko design. They hardly changed a thing apart from double printing the counters. An excellent introductory game to the world of board wargaming. Regards Jim R. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMplayer Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 I started out around 10 with Tactics II and then played the hell out of the AH classics. At 12 or 13 I almost beat a guy who'd written an Afrika Korps tactics article in The General at a tournament. I overran him and took his last on board supplies and took the 'almost to Alexandria' hex (Tobruk was besieged) so he couldn't get supplies to his troops out on the board. Heh heh. But I was only a kid so I stupidly left the supplies where he could capture them back. Even so, he was white-faced after that. He'd even asked me (in a very quiet voice) to let him take back the move which enabled my overrun. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nestor Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Originally posted by Kanonier Reichmann: My first wargame was also Afrika Corps but that was before Avalon Hill took over the original Jedko design. They hardly changed a thing apart from double printing the counters. An excellent introductory game to the world of board wargaming. Regards Jim R. The double-printing of counters in AH games caused it's own problems on occasion. It took me a couple of years to realise that my brother and I were playing with both sets in Stalingrad - my that map was crowded Afrika Korps was my 2nd ever purchase - great game, although my favourite was (and still is) Ceasar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Originally posted by Kanonier Reichmann: My first wargame was also Afrika Corps but that was before Avalon Hill took over the original Jedko design.Hang on a sec. Are you sure we're talking about the same Afrika Korps? The one I have reference to came out in 1965 and I don't recall any connection with Jedko. I did see a later game by Jedko sometime around 1981 that was generally like Afrika Korps but a tad more sophisticated. I think AH did buy that one. They hardly changed a thing apart from double printing the counters.The original AH Afrika Korps most assuredly did not have back printed counters. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMplayer Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 This is the original, afaik: From 1965 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Yes you're right Michael, my memory was failing me. I meant to say my first wargame was The African Campaign by Jedko Games which I received for my twelfth birthday. It kept me going for months on end. Although it was good for its day it was far surpassed by the absolute classic subsequent release by Jedko of The Russian Camapign. This particular wargame was a gem & became one of Avalon Hills best sellers for its day when they took over the title. Regards Jim R. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Originally posted by Kanonier Reichmann: Yes you're right Michael, my memory was failing me. I meant to say my first wargame was The African Campaign by Jedko Games which I received for my twelfth birthday. It kept me going for months on end. Although it was good for its day it was far surpassed by the absolute classic subsequent release by Jedko of The Russian Camapign. This particular wargame was a gem & became one of Avalon Hills best sellers for its day when they took over the title.Right on all counts! Have a brew, bro! Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Originally posted by CMplayer: This is the original, afaik: From 1965 Gosh, does that image bring back memories. That was the first game I stayed up all night to finish. My roommates were shocked when they stumbled out of bed to go to class and found me there on the floor, hunched over the map board, raving incoherently about the 7SG, which I mistakenly called the Scotch Guards. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakthrough Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Originally posted by Michael Emrys: Ten is awful young to try to come to terms with a game as complex as Tobruk. You should have started off with something simpler, like AH's Afrika Korps. Michael Dont judge everyone equally sir! Why, when I got tired of beating european chessmasters at age 12, I embarked on my glorious board wargame career.... Took up writng haikus too.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Puppchen Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 I was playing tobruk at age 10, too. Not very well, though. Also playing 3rd Reich and the famous Afrika Korps that we see the map board for. However I got tired of the 2/1 and 1/1 attacks on Tobruk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Originally posted by Breakthrough: Why, when I got tired of beating european chessmasters at age 12...Ah yes, the famous adolescent chess prodigy...what did you say your name was again? Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Originally posted by Kanonier Reichmann: My first wargame was also Afrika Corps but that was before Avalon Hill took over the original Jedko design. They hardly changed a thing apart from double printing the counters. An excellent introductory game to the world of board wargaming. Regards Jim R. Uncanny. Jedkos' Afrika Corps was my first game too. I was 13 IIRC. Maybe 12. My second game was also from Jedko, a little thing called Fortress Europa. I'm pretty sure I still have them both, although the SS divisions are looking more white than black now ... Jon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Ahhh...the memories. Thanks for the suggestion about the brew Michael, I'll do my best tonight after squash. Interesting co-incidence isn't it Jon. I think we were lucky to be introduced to the hobby by such a good wargame company. I only bought Fortress Europa when I was well into my teens & never really got into it due to diversions such as SPI's Sniper! and subsequently, Squad Leader. Regards Jim R. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cessna Posted May 6, 2004 Author Share Posted May 6, 2004 SPI's Sniper - Lord, we played the hell out of that. Specificly the TSR redux. It was the only wargame I could get ahold of during a long overseas deployment with the USMC - we completely wore out our copy... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonm Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Originally posted by Cessna: SPI's Sniper - Lord, we played the hell out of that. Specificly the TSR redux. It was the only wargame I could get ahold of during a long overseas deployment with the USMC - we completely wore out our copy... You didn’t get tired of filling in those pads plotting every man’s moves / actions? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrich0000 Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Avalon Hill's Africa Korps was my first too. Now I have a jones on to go and play a few games... those were definitely simpler days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wygal Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 Help me here you old Avalon Hill grognards. My only published article was in "The General" in around 1966 or 1967. I've never been able to find it. It was proposing the concept of "impulse moves." The article was in reference to "Stalingrad." The article's author is the same as my post name, on this forum---name on my e-mail. I would be extremely grateful if someone has this article and could forward. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 I'll take a look. I think my issues of The General only go back to the early '70s, but I have a Guide to Stalingrad which was a digest of articles from The General. Would your article have appeared in that? Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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