ozi_digger Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 G'day All, Firstly, apologies for not posting in a while, but sadly my interest in CMAK flagged for a bit. Secondly, I've discovered a book that may appeal to some scenario designers (apologies in advance to grognards who've already discovered it). The book: Charles B. MacDonald and Sidney T. Mathews, Three Battles: Arnaville, Altuzzo and Shcmidt, Washington: Department of the Army, 1952. It is part of the series United States Army in World War II commissioned by the Office of the Chief of Military History. It is a very rich resource with: descriptive AARs, annotated aerial photos, 10-20m contour interval maps and battle diagrams. I thoroughly recommend it to anyone who is interested in designing scenarios based on Arnaville, Altuzzo or Schmidt. Bearing in mind it is a government publication from 1952, I am willing to scan limited parts (maps and aerial photos) for scenario designers. If you are a serious designer, let me know and I'll email it out in jpeg or pdf form once I have a good sized mailing list. Any takers? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Russian Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 Originally posted by ozi_digger: G'day All, Firstly, apologies for not posting in a while, but sadly my interest in CMAK flagged for a bit. Secondly, I've discovered a book that may appeal to some scenario designers (apologies in advance to grognards who've already discovered it). The book: Charles B. MacDonald and Sidney T. Mathews, Three Battles: Arnaville, Altuzzo and Shcmidt, Washington: Department of the Army, 1952. It is part of the series United States Army in World War II commissioned by the Office of the Chief of Military History. It is a very rich resource with: descriptive AARs, annotated aerial photos, 10-20m contour interval maps and battle diagrams. I thoroughly recommend it to anyone who is interested in designing scenarios based on Arnaville, Altuzzo or Schmidt. Bearing in mind it is a government publication from 1952, I am willing to scan limited parts (maps and aerial photos) for scenario designers. If you are a serious designer, let me know and I'll email it out in jpeg or pdf form once I have a good sized mailing list. Any takers? I would be interested in the Schmidt maps, text, photos. I guess you could call me a serious designer. I have over 75 scenarios posted to the SD. Panther Commander 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve McClaire Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 Also, many university and public libraries have a copy of this book (and many of the other US Army official WW2 histories). They're commonly called 'The Green Books' (because of their green cloth binding, I assume ). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozi_digger Posted August 22, 2004 Author Share Posted August 22, 2004 Scanning of Schmidt maps and photos completed. Size is 6.4Mb as jpegs compressed in RAR file. If you want a copy, speak now or forever hold your peace. Pls specify jpeg or pdf and zip or rar format. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 I'm a map collector, so if you don't mind Oz. email addy in my profile Mace 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Bolt Posted August 22, 2004 Share Posted August 22, 2004 Here's is the US gov site for ordering the complete set of official (ETO/MTO/Mid East) US Army books "green books" on WWII on CD. There about 12 books in the set on 4 CDs.GREEN BOOKS on CD They go for $23.00 - S/H included. New from the US gov these books go for about $50 each. The PTO books are in a different package. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 Yes I have that book, some good scenario material in it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 Originally posted by Hans: Yes I have that book, some good scenario material in it. Found my notes on that book, I would recommend Page 192 which shows the situation prior to a german counter-attack at Monte Altuzzo. I found CMAK editor not to be up to the challenge of recreating the terrain for this mountain battle. Page 237+ when company K attacks knob 3 I didn't find anything specific in the River Crossing at Arnaville that was doable, most of it depended on a heavy use of smoke generators. A map on page 71 is probably a great source for a "what if" scenario. The German counterattack of 12 September shown on map 6 on page 78 is a probable source for material for 3-4 scenarios. The Schmidt battle I believe was done by WWB and he has a portion of it at least under a CMBO battle called Vossenack. Good map on page 342-343 Page 365-367 Company C, 1340th Engrs at the Kall Bridge. Page 374+ action at Kommerscheidt 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Concussion Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 If its not too late, I do quite a bit of scenario creating, and I'm always looking for something to create for. Plus I like maps. If I'm not too late, then "goldengalleon@yahoo.com" and you asked to specify a few things: JPEG and ZIP formats, unless its easier otherwise because all those formats will work for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 Originally posted by Major Concussion: If its not too late, I do quite a bit of scenario creating, and I'm always looking for something to create for. Plus I like maps. If I'm not too late, then "goldengalleon@yahoo.com" and you asked to specify a few things: JPEG and ZIP formats, unless its easier otherwise because all those formats will work for me. MC if you don't get a response let me know and I'll scan and send to you what you request. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaws Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 I am not only a scenario writer for CMAK but also for my work. I would like the maps to use them for my work. Thanks in advance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryInk Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Put me down for the scans too. harryink@alphalink.com.au Thanks I enjoyed that book. Found it in the La Trobe Uni library here in Melbourne. I'm not surprised that CM wasn't up to the Mt. Altuzzo battle. It's extreme! Look at the photos. You'd only go up there cos it was a war!! Eagles and men with guns in front and behind them and bugger all choice, they're the only one's who go up dem moutains. However, I expect you told the fellas at BTS your opinions, Hans? Also Hans, given your notes on the book, can I have your babies?! er hem There is an battle for the Arnaville bridgehead, or rather for the hills just across the river - where the yanks sat on the wrong hill. I played it. Doesn't quite catch the flavour of a good CM fight - especially vs. the AI. I would have thought the night action where the Tigers and PIVs attack the yank's right flank might have been more promising. Company scale, more varied terrain, etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Originally posted by HarryInk: Put me down for the scans too. harryink@alphalink.com.au Thanks I enjoyed that book. Found it in the La Trobe Uni library here in Melbourne. I'm not surprised that CM wasn't up to the Mt. Altuzzo battle. It's extreme! Look at the photos. You'd only go up there cos it was a war!! Eagles and men with guns in front and behind them and bugger all choice, they're the only one's who go up dem moutains. Hans: High mountains don't look that great in the editor - cool fight but hard to model in CM However, I expect you told the fellas at BTS your opinions, Hans? Hans: Nah, Charles and Matt are still not talking to me after I did "Gunfight 1881" Also Hans, given your notes on the book, can I have your babies?! Hans: NO, but I will accept cash gifts or canned goods er hem There is an battle for the Arnaville bridgehead, or rather for the hills just across the river - where the yanks sat on the wrong hill. I played it. Doesn't quite catch the flavour of a good CM fight - especially vs. the AI. I would have thought the night action where the Tigers and PIVs attack the yank's right flank might have been more promising. Company scale, more varied terrain, etc. I did pull one idea out of that book which is in the to do list, that of an American AT gun company that is sent forward to seal a gap when a battalion under fire falls apart. "Guns into the Breach", at some point I'll get to it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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