Lady Roxanne Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 ....and I got the movie to prove it. It looked like the molotovs were actually launched, like ampulomets. Two teams did it virtually simultaneously. The targets were less than 30 meters away. It's probably just a rare hickup, but it's a keeper. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gpig Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 Heh! Someone else posted a pretty picture of a android (russian) launching a molotov over 100m. This was before the latest patch, as well. I wonder what sets 'em off? Gpig 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 Well, you said it, it was a green team. They just didn't know the max range is 30 meters - how they are supposed to know? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaBellum Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 Originally posted by redwolf: Well, you said it, it was a green team. They just didn't know the max range is 30 meters - how they are supposed to know? Redwolf is right, the problem is the low experience of the troops. In the early stages of the winter war finnish conscripts repeatedly used to throw Molotov cocktails at soviet high-flying (20'000ft)level bombers , downing several of them. Only after strong soviet protests threatening severy reprisals (dropping borscht on cities) did the finns stop these unusual practice. [ June 21, 2003, 12:03 AM: Message edited by: ParaBellum ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn2002 Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 In the early stages of the winter war finnish conscripts repeatedly used to throw Molotov cocktails at soviet high-flying (20'000ft)level bombers , downing several of them Whahahahahaa! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hensworth Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 Molotovs are the pits. Aside from this apparent bug where troops seem to be trying to launch them into orbit (IIRC the original game didn't have this problem, it seems to have been introduced with one of the patches), they are less effective then grenades (even against open topped vehicles) but used first, it often takes an age for a squad sitting right next to a dozing tank to toss one and they have about as much chance of knocking out a vehicle as a pebble. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer76 Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 Molotovs are useless. They couldnt KO a gas station if they tried. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Lucke Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 I'm playing a PBEM right now where a single ampulomet has KO'd 3 halftracks and a tank --- admittedly, the best I've ever seen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.Sgt. Havilandt Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 I'm probably wrong, but wasn't this a problem with the original release? Someone posted a picture of a tank hunter team throwing cocktails a good 100 meters over buildings to hit some armour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 1st Hussars Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 Originally posted by Panzer76: Molotovs are useless. They couldnt KO a gas station if they tried. Ampulo.. apum.. Apa... Molotov throwers work great though. Molotovs themselves are only useful against open topped AFVs. [ June 21, 2003, 09:30 AM: Message edited by: Shadow 1st Hussars ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tools4fools Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 Originally posted by ParaBellum: In the early stages of the winter war finnish conscripts repeatedly used to throw Molotov cocktails at soviet high-flying (20'000ft)level bombers , downing several of them. Where is my turn? Better send it or I will get one of those finnish conscripts to throw Molotov cocktails from Basel to Mannheim. It is said that the arty conscripts were able to throw even that far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 The "miss" procedure obviously rolls for the size of the miss, with the least accurate shots getting wider misses. It is then placed wherever. That generates the absurd throws. I've seen something similar when ordering T-34s to area fire at a sound contact a long way off while moving. Since they get only 1-2% accuracy, they miss by comical distances - a full km in one case (lol). Conceptually, just put it down to "missed by a mile" and grin. As for a modeling fix, the miss location should be within max range or max range plus 10m, and miss to the side if the "roll" is that bad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Roxanne Posted June 21, 2003 Author Share Posted June 21, 2003 Which Soviet squads have the WORST chance of taking out armor? Answer: Squads with 4 or 5 molotovs. Which Soviet squads (non-RPG) have the BEST chance of taking out armor? Answer: Squads with ZERO molotovs. Hand grenades, baby! That's where it's at for the Soviets. Too bad the Sovs can't discard the molotovs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 1st Hussars Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 Originally posted by CrankyKris: Which Soviet squads (non-RPG) have the BEST chance of taking out armor? The squad that just radioed the Il-10 that flew over their heads..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Ryan Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 dropping borscht on cities wots that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Beginna Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Well, it's a delicious red soup - you have to give it a try! By the way - not all Molotows are useless! Some make splendid foreign secretaries and while their Finish relatives brew up KV-1s... after the first try. [ June 23, 2003, 08:55 AM: Message edited by: Da Beginna ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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