Egbert Posted December 29, 2002 Share Posted December 29, 2002 Originally posted by aka_tom_w: I believe this "issue" is a problem I hope it will be addressed in v1.02 one round in the ground short of the target or into the hill or rise in front of your tank, on an occasional basis, is probably realistic BUT when they do it all the time and when they end up pouring round after round into the same hole in the ground directly in front of the tank on a predictable and ongoing basis I think we should be asking if there is not something questionable :confused: in the game code somewhere. -tom wPerhaps the thought is that if you doing it enough you create your own firing slit. Yesss, that must be it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyPig Posted December 29, 2002 Share Posted December 29, 2002 I've seen this problem too many times. You simply must be LOOKING for an argument to say this is common IRL. BTW this little problem happens when using green or crack tanks. FWIW… I’ve read in this forum more than a few inconsistencies with LOS. Not to say they are all true but there does seem to be enough evidence to raise the question (bug). GreasyPig 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egbert Posted December 29, 2002 Share Posted December 29, 2002 Originally posted by GreasyPig: I've seen this problem too many times. You simply must be LOOKING for an argument to say this is common IRL. BTW this little problem happens when using green or crack tanks. FWIW… I’ve read in this forum more than a few inconsistencies with LOS. Not to say they are all true but there does seem to be enough evidence to raise the question (bug). GreasyPigUgh, the firing slit creation thing was my poor attempt at humor. I think that's why al lthe pics of tanks I've seen had shovels. edited to emphasize- that was another poor attempt at humor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyPig Posted December 29, 2002 Share Posted December 29, 2002 Egbert, That wasn't pointed at you bud. I got the joke : ), just folks in genral who believe its COMMON for tanks to plow a hill crest not 30yrds in front of them a half dozen times or more in a row. CRAP! I had a crack tiger do this. Realize, I'm not shouting bug. But I believe there IS something a little wacky with the LOS. Has there been any "official" acknowledgement of this yet? GreasyPig 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egbert Posted December 29, 2002 Share Posted December 29, 2002 Originally posted by GreasyPig: Egbert, That wasn't pointed at you bud. I got the joke : ), GreasyPigAnd I bet you still didn't laugh.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Radley Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 Originally posted by GreasyPig: Has there been any "official" acknowledgement of this yet? GreasyPigWell, not in this thread, at least. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianc Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 Keeping bumping fingers crossed. It is Sunday though... ianc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belaja smert Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 *BUMP* 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 GreasyPig Has there been any "official" acknowledgement of this yet?In another thread, yes. So might as well do it here too We are aware of what appears to be a rounding error (i.e. bug) that can make this happen far more frequently than it should. The bug has been in since CMBO, but it was apparently a lot harder to see it since there was not as many people getting into Hull Down spots. Charles was unable to find it as a result, so hopefully he will be able to track it down this time. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Canuck Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 Originally posted by Battlefront.com: We are aware of what appears to be a rounding error (i.e. bug) that can make this happen far more frequently than it should. The bug has been in since CMBO, but it was apparently a lot harder to see it since there was not as many people getting into Hull Down spots. Charles was unable to find it as a result, so hopefully he will be able to track it down this time. SteveI knew it, they're on it!!! YIPPEE!!! Good ole BTS. :cool: KC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke of Earl Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 Bonjour fellas, Yep, seen the same problem too... hull down tank in defilade continuously firing rounds into the protective hillside directly in front of the gun... and it doesn't matter what experience level the crew is... Not so bad when it is the AI's tank trying to shoot you... hahahahahaha... But a real pain in the butt when it's your tank wasting all the ammo... Cordialement, Duke of Earl 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarRat Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 Originally posted by Battlefront.com: We are aware of what appears to be a rounding error (i.e. bug) that can make this happen far more frequently than it should. The bug has been in since CMBO, but it was apparently a lot harder to see it since there was not as many people getting into Hull Down spots. Charles was unable to find it as a result, so hopefully he will be able to track it down this time. SteveYea! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KursruK Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 Originally posted by Determinant: Try to put yourself into the environment that the game is attempting to model. But then, you're right, it must just be a bug. Twit.[/QB]Who's the twit now? Steve, I know you said this has already been discussed, but I tried searching a variety of ways and couldn't locate the topic. Just wanted you to know there was no trolling here. Thanks for jumping into this thread and clearing things up! [ December 30, 2002, 01:00 PM: Message edited by: tigger ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aka_tom_w Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 Originally posted by Battlefront.com: We are aware of what appears to be a rounding error (i.e. bug) that can make this happen far more frequently than it should. The bug has been in since CMBO, but it was apparently a lot harder to see it since there was not as many people getting into Hull Down spots. Charles was unable to find it as a result, so hopefully he will be able to track it down this time. SteveThats good enough for me ! Good luck on the bug hunt... that one sounds sort of tricky to pin down I'm guessing.... :confused: Thanks clearing that up.... -tom w 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Radley Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 Originally posted by Battlefront.com: We are aware of what appears to be a rounding error (i.e. bug) that can make this happen far more frequently than it should. The bug has been in since CMBO, but it was apparently a lot harder to see it since there was not as many people getting into Hull Down spots. Charles was unable to find it as a result, so hopefully he will be able to track it down this time. SteveOh frabjous day! Calloo, Callay! Come to me now my beamish boy! (And other odd sayings of congratulatory joy) Thanks, guys. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Determinant Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 Originally posted by tigger: Who's the twit now? Yes, yes, je suis le Roi de Twi(a)t. Wrong again. The only consolation is that after 35 years of being wrong it does get easier after a while. Toodle pip. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horus Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 not nice folks. i mean you want to push BFC over these days to work ? @BFC ignore this till mid january; k? drink,laugh and do all the other nice things that brighten a man´s life. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gpig Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 Originally posted by Steve, at BFC; We are aware of what appears to be a rounding error (i.e. bug) that can make this happen far more frequently than it should. The bug has been in since CMBO, but it was apparently a lot harder to see it since there was not as many people getting into Hull Down spots. Charles was unable to find it as a result, so hopefully he will be able to track it down this time.Hmmm. I don't know SQUAT about coding or bugs or what have you. It's just that I NEVER saw this behaviour in CMBO and I was religiously fanatical about achieving HULLDOWN for my armor. But using this same fanatical worldview in regards to HULLDOWN in CMBB revealed this trench digging with main gun phenomenon. I was mightlily surprised. Like I said, I don't know nuthin' but this seems like a "new" situation, rather than a previously documented problem. Just trying to be honest about my opinion. But whatever! As long as it is solved, WHO CARES what I think. Gpig 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gpig Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 WHAM!!! Double postage. [ December 30, 2002, 03:49 PM: Message edited by: Gpig ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianc Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Yes, yes, je suis le Roi de Twi(a)t. Wrong again. The only consolation is that after 35 years of being wrong it does get easier after a while.Takes a big man to admit he's wrong. Bigger than a lot of people on this board anyway, and I respect that Determinant! Good man! ianc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyPig Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Steve, Thank you, especially since it’s a repeat reply. BTW I did use the search, but just try searching “Hull down”, “LOS”, “bug”, … There is simply so much info on this board I can’t see the forest for the trees. As an engineer myself I (and I'm sure NASA) have a special place in my heart for the “rounding bug”. I believe your assumption about hull down and CMBO is right on, I just never had a tank live long enough to see it! Determinant, It really doesn’t get easier (admitting your wrong). You just get use to it. I mean, if you really know in your heart something to be true and an “authority” says its not, then what are you to do? For example, I know my mother in law is the key holder to the gates of hell and I’m convinced my wife is the spawn between her and the man holding a seat for me down there. However, when I was truthful about this with my spouse (which at the time seemed to be the RIGHT thing to do) it was explained to me that I was wrong… in not so many words. Horus, Back off bud. This game is their baby and our passion. It’s their job to stand guard… with a shotgun (especially on weekends and holidays). GreasyPig P.S. please attach replies to the “Backyard”. Me and Sparky are getting along nicely. If I aint there I’ll be stealing old donuts from Circle K for supper. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 From Boo Radley Oh frabjous day! Calloo, Callay! Come to me now my beamish boy! I share your sentiments, but I belive that the exact quote is "Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! He chortled in his joy". I would have let it pass, but I hold someone with your literary username to a higher standard. Plus, since I can't compare to others in this forum on WWII grogness, I can at least strive for literary nit-picking grogness. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzsaw Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 I’m bumping this because it is such an annoying bug. This happened to me twice with a flak truck yesterday. First time I moved it carefully into LOS of a light building I wanted to pepper with HE, but it only managed to dig a little hole in the dirt. The second time, the same flak truck had LOS to a dangerous AT rifle. Again it unloaded round after round into the dirt while the AT rifle merrily plinked away until the flak truck was knocked out. Anyway, looks like BFC is on this one. Hopefully we will see a fix in the next patch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dschugaschwili Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 The only times I have noticed this "firing into the ground" behaviour were situations where I was trying to fire at infantry units that showed 0% exposure without being behind a wall. Can somebody who also has encountered this problem confirm or deny this? Dschugaschwili 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asschen Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 I don't know if this will help but in CMBO, when I wanted a tank to go hull down, I aimed for the crest of hill with a hunt order. When an enemy tank would appear in LOS my tank would stop right on top of the crest and be hull down. When I try the same thing in CMBB a tank usually gets LOS and stops a few meters below the crest. So compared to CMBO it seems that CMBB tanks aquire LOS a bit faster and try to engage in a too deep hull down position. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.