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My guess is that they were an occasional capture. The SU-85 first saw action in Sept '43, and by then the days of wide-sweeping German offensives, the kind that used to round up entire armies in one fell swoop, were long gone. They certainly could have captured a fair number, but most likely it would have been 1 here, 3 there, etc. Not enough to justify equipping an entire German unit.

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I have seen 2 photographs on the same SU-85 vehicle in German service. It was the summer of 1944 in white Russia. The vehicle was repainted dark yellow, with German crosses. It is clearly the same vehicle, one shot from the front and the other from the right rear side. The German designation for captured SU-85s was Jagdpanzer SU-85 ®. I doubt they captured many, and that is the most likely time you'd see them - 1944, from the start of the year to mid-summer. Probably taken in various local counterattacks from very late 43 on. Before then, they weren't out or ground was changing hands too uniformly in the Russian favor. And after Bagration, it is unlikely many survived.

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Originally posted by Bruce70:

Well it would appear to my untrained eye that the first and third are not the same vehicle, not without some modifications at least.

Well, maybe it's the one behind it in picture 3. There is no 213 on the vehicle in picture 3 that I can make out. But as I said, there is another SU-85 behind and to the left of the prominent one in the photo.

Who knows.

At best we now have a photographic record of exactly THREE SU-85's captured by the Germans. Not much to go on is it?!

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There used to be a terrific site called Red Steel, which had a wealth of captured AFV photos on it, but it has gone the way of the dodo. Maybe one of those Internet site archives has it? Battlefield.ru

normally also has a pretty good section, but the site is undergoing major overhaul, and that section hasn't been reposted yet.

Regards,

John Kettler

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Thanks guys for the answers and photos smile.gif

So it looks like really not too many of them have been captured... I assume that a similar number of SU-122 or SU-152 may have been captured as well, but these have not been added to CMBB units because of the lack of evidence?

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A few links that may be of some interest in this regard.

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=42954&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=7ae9addfc88edac8f1c482658af5b0ab

http://beute.narod.ru/Beutepanzer/su/su_trophy.htm

http://www.tincrossmilitaria.com/Tincross%20Militaria%20-Armor%20Pix.htm

Pre-war polish stuff,

http://derela.republika.pl/armcarpl.htm

Here is one for you, junk2drive,

http://www.santacruzchronicles.com/scwveh.html

I don't think there is any doubt that it may had be better if it came to either one or the other, it would have made more sense to had included a captured KV instead of the SU-85.

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