Rake Posted April 17, 2001 Share Posted April 17, 2001 Hi all....... I'm one of the long time lurkers, never-ever posters, that were spoken of in an over-the-weekend thread about the number of copies of CM that had been sold by BTS. That is neither here, nor there..... the situation which brings me to the board is as follows: I was playing the Villers-Bocage campaign last nite. I had the British convoy all lined up, picking them off tank by tank (whenever the smoke would clear a bit ). Unt Wittmann had just loosed a round at a Cromwell that he had bracketed and I was expecting a certain kill with this shot. Unfortunately, the round was quite a bit short; about 700 meters short. More surprisingly, the road suddenly burst into flames... no intervening vehicles, no trees or brush in the way and I certainly hope that there was no invisible building in the path of the shell. Now, rather than sitting at the rather safe range of 1200 meters, give or take, I'll have to move around the fire in order to reacquire these targets. Meanwhile, I not only lose acquisition, but I completely lose sight of the entire enemy line along the road. Anyhow, my question is "What's up with this? I presume someone has seen this before, but I haven't seen anything about it on the board. I ran a search for "Burning Roads" but it returned nothing of substance. If this is a new type of tank round, I'll have to ask for several rounds in my loadout next time my Shermans go up against Panther's or more..... it beats the heck out of popping smoke rounds that only last a turn or so. Oh, just so noone thinks I'm any crazier than I actually am, I took a series of screenshots to document this. Unfortunately, I have no way of posting them to the site. I do however have them zipped up, if someone here cares to put them up for me. TIA, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
109 Gustav Posted April 17, 2001 Share Posted April 17, 2001 Basically, the terrain tiles in CM are abstracted. Open terrain isn't open at all, there's small bushes and trees that will give the troops in it some cover. A road tile may have some gasoline spilled on it, or maybe there's a big log in the road that caught on fire. There have even been reports of snow catching on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Babra Posted April 17, 2001 Share Posted April 17, 2001 Gas. Gas on the road. Gas from a perforated Halftrack. Yeah, that's what it was. Gas... :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmead Posted April 17, 2001 Share Posted April 17, 2001 Got me, never heard nor seen the like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted April 17, 2001 Share Posted April 17, 2001 I thought it was the way some galactic gas was reflected off of Venus and something or other. Oh hell, whatever the excuse was they used in the film "Men in Black" No really, there was probably a British flamethrower unit in the area somewhere that lit the road on fire. Again though, whatever actually ignited on the road is a factor of abstraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyrene Posted April 17, 2001 Share Posted April 17, 2001 Napalm, Napalm, I love you... Know that cadence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suicides-by-Steve Posted April 17, 2001 Share Posted April 17, 2001 I also replied to this post under the scenario boards (what was I thinking?) , but I know for certain what happened. Two shells collided with each other in mid-flight (one from Wittman, the other from British armour); this explains why the shell fell short. The resulting explosion simply blew the hell out of everything close to it as the surrounding air ignited into a 1000° fireball... thats it for sure... you better check those screenshots out for the second shot from the grassy knoll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holman Posted April 17, 2001 Share Posted April 17, 2001 Well, it seems to me that your shell set a fire among the scrub and grass alongside the road. Maybe it was particularly thick there. Was the ground condition "dry"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rake Posted April 18, 2001 Author Share Posted April 18, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Well, it seems to me that your shell set a fire among the scrub and grass alongside the road. Maybe it was particularly thick there. Was the ground condition "dry"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Martyr: Yes, the ground conditions are "dry", though this still doesn't explain why the fire is centered in the middle of the road. It is June, so I suppose it could be quite warm and the tar from the macadamized road would be bubbling in the heat. I presume the binder (tar) in the macadam paving of the forties was petroleum based like todays asphalts... that would explain a lot! S-b-S..... I DID consider the possibility of colliding shots. Believe me, I checked all the British vehicles for returned fire at this moment. I concur with the Warren Commision findings in that there is no evidence to support the theory of a second gunman IMHO, the most likely cause would have been as Gustav suggested...... Gasoline leaking from previously destroyed halftracks defied the laws of gravity and plumbing, flowing uphill approximately 250 meters, where it pooled, awaiting the inevitable "short" round from an elite gunner Thanks for all the comments, guess I'll just have to write this one up to the vagaries of war.... can't wait til I get to burn some snow Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue male Posted April 18, 2001 Share Posted April 18, 2001 I was playing Saarburg Saturday night had the "snow on fire" working from a shot by a Mark IV against some brush. It burned and burned and burned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
109 Gustav Posted April 18, 2001 Share Posted April 18, 2001 "Smells like napalm, tastes like chicken!" Quiz- anyone know what game this is from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russellmz Posted April 18, 2001 Share Posted April 18, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 109 Gustav: "Smells like napalm, tastes like chicken!" Quiz- anyone know what game this is from?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=lang_en&safe=off&q=%22Smells+like+napalm%2C+tastes+like+chicken%22 starts with M, first listing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyBucket Posted April 18, 2001 Share Posted April 18, 2001 The Boston M*******. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedlam Posted April 18, 2001 Share Posted April 18, 2001 Go back into the game or look at your screen shots. Is the road in a wooded area? a.k.a. road in scattered trees, woods, or tall pines. If you set fire to any of these terrain tiles I think it acts like a roadblock. NOTHING gets through. How it originally caught fire? Thats another story. Your tank round might have set it off (I think you said it hit sort 700 yards). Area fire from a flamethrower/MG/infantry unit maybe? I assure you, there is no napalm. Since we'r on the subjest. When do we get the gelled gas like they dropped on Dresden? Nedlam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marnix Posted April 18, 2001 Share Posted April 18, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gyrene: Napalm, Napalm, I love you... Know that cadence? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Something to do with NyQuil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
109 Gustav Posted April 18, 2001 Share Posted April 18, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by russellmz: Originally posted by 109 Gustav: [qb]"Smells like napalm, tastes like chicken!" Quiz- anyone know what game this is from?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=lang_en&safe=off &q=%22Smells+like+napalm%2C+tastes+like+chicken%22 starts with M, first listing[/QB] Cheater! Ok, has anyone actually played the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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