aka_tom_w Posted November 13, 2001 Share Posted November 13, 2001 "You should try playing by the Iron Man Rules. Under these rules you can only view the battlefield from view 1 and only from the position of your units. This means no more "cheating" by having aerial or top-down views of the battlefield, only the realistic views that your soldiers get. Also, you can't turn off the trees so it makes moving in a forest very confusing. There are many other rules that make the Iron man rules very challenging and more realistic. It actually makes the computer AI more challenging to play. " This concept has also been formalized by Franco who has also posted a complete "rule set" My problem is that I don't have enough self discpline to adhear to all the rules when I play and I can't imagine trusting my opponent in human game to strictly follow the rules. Would BTS consider an option in CMBB that would mean you could choose the new extreme fog of war AND Iron Man Rules. Now that would sure make for an intense game. I post this to continue the concept that troops in the woods at night under human control "should" somehow have the "opportunity" to get lost. Iron Man rules with NO compass would mean direction finding at night on a large map would sure as hell be a navigational challenge. (NO GPS for those boys on the ground back in WW II) Just a Thought! -tom w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Oberst Posted November 13, 2001 Share Posted November 13, 2001 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by aka_tom_w: "You should try playing by the Iron Man Rules. Under these rules you can only view the battlefield from view 1 and only from the position of your units. This means no more "cheating" by having aerial or top-down views of the battlefield, only the realistic views that your soldiers get. Also, you can't turn off the trees so it makes moving in a forest very confusing. There are many other rules that make the Iron man rules very challenging and more realistic. It actually makes the computer AI more challenging to play. " This concept has also been formalized by Franco who has also posted a complete "rule set" My problem is that I don't have enough self discpline to adhear to all the rules when I play and I can't imagine trusting my opponent in human game to strictly follow the rules. Would BTS consider an option in CMBB that would mean you could choose the new extreme fog of war AND Iron Man Rules. Now that would sure make for an intense game. I post this to continue the concept that troops in the woods at night under human control "should" somehow have the "opportunity" to get lost. Iron Man rules with NO compass would mean direction finding at night on a large map would sure as hell be a navigational challenge. (NO GPS for those boys on the ground back in WW II) Just a Thought! -tom w<hr></blockquote> You could extend that one a little farther... Iron Man rules. The potential for multiple players per side, each with a separate password, associated with a Commander position. Limit each commander to view 1 from only his units. The higher up the food chain the more views, but other than what you can see, "radio net" would be the only way to coordinate. You'd probably really, really want a map grid to play that way though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp Posted November 13, 2001 Share Posted November 13, 2001 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Herr Oberst: You could extend that one a little farther... Iron Man rules. The potential for multiple players per side, each with a separate password, associated with a Commander position. Limit each commander to view 1 from only his units. The higher up the food chain the more views, but other than what you can see, "radio net" would be the only way to coordinate. You'd probably really, really want a map grid to play that way though.<hr></blockquote> I'm not holding my breath for inclusion in CMBB, but I'd go for the Iron Man feature too in the future. Concerning the proposals for tying a player to a particular unit, radio net, and chain of command--this is exactly how a Rumble is done in ASL circles, and it is indeed a hoot. (Sorry about the Nebelwerfers, Gordon, heh.) I've skipped the CM Rumbles because it seemed to me that an individual team member would have too much knowledge of what was going on over on the other side of the map, but this structure would be just what the doctor ordered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyrene Posted November 13, 2001 Share Posted November 13, 2001 An Iron Man or Franko's True Combat option for the game would be great. Forcing the players to keep at least a "Sparse" level of tree coverge and the "Realistic" scale level should be an option too. Gyrene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Harrison Posted November 13, 2001 Share Posted November 13, 2001 it would be great if that was something that you could switch "on" that would force you to play by those rules. i also dont have the discipline to play that way, im spoiled playing it the other way around!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWB Posted November 13, 2001 Share Posted November 13, 2001 Well, I think that multiple commanders are probably not a realistic expectation for CM2. Iron Man rules should be easier to implement, since all they really would involve is disabling some view options, which should be relatively simple, require no engine changes, etc. WWB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dschugaschwili Posted November 14, 2001 Share Posted November 14, 2001 In order to implement the iron man rules, there has to be a possibility of disabling any mods the user has installed, otherwise you can cheat pretty easily by using a blank tree texture, bright colors for vehicle models, a different color for each model, and so on. Dschugaschwili Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie the Toad Posted November 15, 2001 Share Posted November 15, 2001 Too bad there isnt a way to eliminate cheating in Iron Man. Who can you trust? "No body loves me but my momma, and I think she might be jivin' too." Trustworthy Toad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Leader Posted November 15, 2001 Share Posted November 15, 2001 They did mention an "extreme fog of war" option. It might not be "iron man" but "X-TREME!" sure sounds good... [ 11-14-2001: Message edited by: Panzer Leader ]</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aka_tom_w Posted November 15, 2001 Author Share Posted November 15, 2001 yes they have hinted "something" about an extreme fog of war option, I would imagine it will become the prefered way to play -tom w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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