Abteilung Posted February 8, 2001 Share Posted February 8, 2001 Would the Pz.Kpfw.B2 Flammwagen qualify as a rare vehicle. Jentz places one with 2.Kompanie/Panzer-Abteilung (Flamm) 102 under the 9.Armee. The had a flamethrower in the hull in place of the 7,5 cm cannon. Also the Pz.Kpfw.II F Sd.Kfz. 122. with two hull mounted flamethrowers and turret mounted MG. Oh BTW...what about the whole Entwicklung series of vehicles..*drool* the E-10, E-25, E-50, E-75, E-100....hehe, although a tad on the "didn't happen, can't go there" side of things it would add tremendously to the game along with the already present Super Pershing and the addition of the mighty IS-III. Not for any "historical" type scenarios obviously, but the possibilities are almost endless with such an assortment of vehicles. Many more have been mentioned than I should repeat in this post and most if not all would be great to have, I'd be willing to wait an extra quarter to get them, as CM 1 is doing very nicely right now, thank you. An example I'd like to throw out is Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe or SWOTL affectionately. Including a profound selection of aircraft, it remains today the only sim of its kind. No other can match its replay value just from the vehicle assortment alone not to mention being able to man any station on a B-17. Many apologies for any redundant info which I may seem to be bombarding you with. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Belles Posted February 8, 2001 Share Posted February 8, 2001 Another vote, as always, for the Panzer Maus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzlehead Posted February 8, 2001 Share Posted February 8, 2001 Dutch Trucks!!! We NEED Dutch Trucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crank_GS Posted February 8, 2001 Share Posted February 8, 2001 1982 Ford Escort, retro-fitted with a 90mm recoilless rifle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmaker Posted February 8, 2001 Share Posted February 8, 2001 I'll also throw my vote in for the German E-series of tanks for hypothetical and a longer WWII. With this in mind I seem to recall the U.S. was having other heavy armor designs in mind. One looked like a German TD with no turret but a rather friggin' large looking gun on the hull. Also a Sherman variant(can't recall the name) but had an insane amount of cannons mounted on the turret for soft targets supposedly. Also throw in the JS-II/III's to give the 88's and 75mm's a workout and bigger game than my beloved King Tigers. Oh yeah, the Brummbars and Sturmtigers too! ------------------ "Uncommon valor was a common virtue"-Adm.Chester Nimitz of the Marines on Iwo Jima Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesco Posted February 8, 2001 Share Posted February 8, 2001 Is there in CMBO a Flammpanzer III? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Eyes Posted February 9, 2001 Author Share Posted February 9, 2001 SturmTiger, Kattenkrad, Skink, Meatchopper; register your favorite rare and not so rare vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rollstoy Posted February 9, 2001 Share Posted February 9, 2001 M 12 - Self propelled howitzer/assault gun (155 mm) Listed as "Sturmgeschütz" in a book of mine, which would indicate a (optional) direct fire role?!? Also, there was a German self-propelled 150mm infantry gun (sIG 33 ?!?!), do not know if this is in CM already. Both mean demolition weapons for city fighting. Regards, Thomm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abteilung Posted February 9, 2001 Share Posted February 9, 2001 Originally posted by rollstoy Also, there was a German self-propelled 150mm infantry gun (sIG 33 ?!?!), do not know if this is in CM already. There is this one SturmPanzer II Bison And also a mounting of the sIG 33 on the Pz.Kpfw.III Chassis called the Sturminfanteriegeschütz 33 which is about halfway down the page here There is also a mounting of this field gun on the Pz.Kpfw.I. Chassis. It is near the bottom of the page here Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbhawkins Posted February 9, 2001 Share Posted February 9, 2001 Michael, YES RAAMC is Royal Australian Army Medical Corp!! I am a Doctor in outback NSW (Wagga Wagga actually). And thank you for the reply it answers my question perfectly! Carry on! Peter Hawkins Capt RAAMC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rollstoy Posted February 9, 2001 Share Posted February 9, 2001 Armored trains??!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt the Paladin Posted February 9, 2001 Share Posted February 9, 2001 The Mammoth tank Maus. Only nine ever built by the Germans. Had a 150mm gun and armor 14in thick in front, 2in on sides and rear. 190 tons, moves at 12mph. ------------------ "War is like a cat, it is easy to let out of the bag, but hard as hell to put back in!" -Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Babra Posted February 9, 2001 Share Posted February 9, 2001 If even one vehicle which saw combat, however rare, got bumped from the schedule to make room for things which never left the proving grounds or the drawing boards, I think I'd freak. How about a fecking Opel Blitz??? I'm gettin tired of lookin at that ugly Dodge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted February 9, 2001 Share Posted February 9, 2001 For CM 2, i think the... HORSE would be great to have The Germans used MANY horses for transport,i did not saw a single animal in CM 1. Monty aka Moose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipper Posted February 9, 2001 Share Posted February 9, 2001 I guess, they try to avoid problems with human rights activists. Cruelty to horses and such. (or ?) You know, like in german version of IL-2 flight sim Luftwaffe birds will feature maltese cross instead of authentic swastikas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted February 9, 2001 Share Posted February 9, 2001 Originally posted by Monty: For CM 2, i think the... HORSE would be great to have The Germans used MANY horses for transport,i did not saw a single animal in CM 1. Monty aka Moose The German Army relied extensively on draft animals for both infantry and artillery units. The bad news is, there has already been word from BTS that they will not be included in CM2. I would freak, too, if the Maus was ever even considered for any version of CM over other vehicles or gameplay features. I'd rather see infantry-related stuff like flail tanks, booby traps, scenario designated depleted squads, etc. introduced ahead of rolling garbage like the Maus. The American army was characterized by its mechanization - let's see Dodge weapons carriers/command cars, and a full range of softskins for all nationalities - 1/4 ton, 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton, 1-1/2 ton and 2-1/2 ton trucks - (admittedly, it would not make much of a difference in game play) Or a graphic where the 2 in mortar man throws the mortar over his shoulder, instead of walking it like a dog... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Heidman Posted February 9, 2001 Share Posted February 9, 2001 Originally posted by Matt the Paladin: The Mammoth tank Maus. Only nine ever built by the Germans. Try zero actually built. At most one, but probably not even that. Had a 150mm gun and armor 14in thick in front, 2in on sides and rear. 128mm gun. Not sure how much armor, but it was not 14". That would be 356mm of armor. 190 tons, moves at 12mph. Doesn't move at all. Design spec called for 20kMH, on the road. Prototype did not meet even that spec. This is why these things cannot be in CM. You can't even get credible stats on what they *might* be able to do, much less on what they actually could do. Jeff Heidman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted February 9, 2001 Share Posted February 9, 2001 Maus was also "supposed" to have a high velocity 75mm gun ala the Panther mounted coaxially with the 128. Just imagine how long it would take to load a 128 mm gun. I can't fathom why anyone would want to actually include this in a CM scenario. It's be like having a battery of 155mm Long Toms represented on the map. To what end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoffel Posted February 10, 2001 Share Posted February 10, 2001 Panther II ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Eye Posted February 10, 2001 Share Posted February 10, 2001 German StrumTigers T-28 These would be nice to play around with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPA Posted February 10, 2001 Share Posted February 10, 2001 - British Airborne Reconnaissance jeeps with 'K' Vickers MG mounting. - Tetrarch Tanks - For N. Africa - SAS long range desert jeep armed to the teeth, Grant and Lee. (Not a hope) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnergoz Posted February 10, 2001 Share Posted February 10, 2001 1. German Goliath radio-controlled kamikaze tankettes 2. U.S. halftrack M-3 gun carriage w/75mm gun as used in N.Africa and Italy 3. U.S. M-6 heavy tank (what-if) 4. M-22 Locust airborne tank 5. LVT series amphibians BTW, reagarding earlier post, there were no "40mm bofors halftracks" in U.S. service other than a very few field mods which seem to have been restricted to the Pacific. But the M-15 HT, now that I'd love to see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullethead Posted February 11, 2001 Share Posted February 11, 2001 My list of East Front vehicles I'd like to see: 1. The Pioneer version of the PzII that had the crane on the back for placing large demo charges. Also the type used as an APC for sappers. 2. The T-35-1(76) heavy tank with a crew of 10 and 5 separate turrets. 3. All the various 2-turret versions of the T-26. 4. The KV-8 with its usual armor, 4 MGs and a turret combining a 47mm AT gun and a flamethrower. 5. SdKfz 301 demolitions vehicle. 6. Raupenschlepper Ost, with and without the 75mm PAK aboard. 7. SdKfz 251s with the Wurfrahmen 40 rockets attached to the sides. 8. Amphibious vehicles and assault boats for everybody. And while not a true vehicle, I'd like to see Sturmoviks carrying their PATB clusterbombs ------------------ -Bullethead In wine there is wisdom, in beer there is strength, in water there is bacteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the dubmonkey Posted February 11, 2001 Share Posted February 11, 2001 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted February 11, 2001 Share Posted February 11, 2001 Originally posted by IPA: - British Airborne Reconnaissance jeeps with 'K' Vickers MG mounting. - Tetrarch Tanks - For N. Africa - SAS long range desert jeep armed to the teeth, Grant and Lee. (Not a hope) Great idea - and the Pink Panther chevrolets they used in the desert too, with the MG mounts. Great ideas. After CM2, there is lots of ground to cover - I wouldn't say not a hope - it's only a matter of time. Years, maybe, but it will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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