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What should have been an easy upgrade has already consumed 16 hours of time. And we are still not done yet :mad: Please bear with us as we slowly get this place back into shape.

Notes about the new UBB scripts...

We upgraded primarily because it supposedly handles larg forums, like ours, much better than earlier versions. In case you weren't aware, we had to regullarly shut down the BBS to clear out some sort of cache bug.

Some of the new features that came along with this new version are definitely cool, others are just going to take some time to get used to, and others plain suck. We have disabled as many of the utterly useless features that were added, but some (including us) are not totally happy with what remains. But like most things in life, you have to take some bad along with the good. Hopefully you folks will see more good than bad. We do. Well, except for the upgrading process...

Steve

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Big Time Software:

What should have been an easy upgrade has already consumed 16 hours of time. And we are still not done yet :mad: Please bear with us as we slowly get this place back into shape.

Steve<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Damned, that's 16 hours more to wait for CMII ;)

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Ok, since you guys are making changes now anyway, I've got a suggestion. Why can't you jumb back to the " General forum " after making a reply on a given thread? At present you can go to the next topic but many many times I want to go back to the beginning of the forum to look for another topic I want to look at or maybe reply to. Does that make sense? ;)

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Please ignore my last reply above. Too much sun for a person is not good, I guess. After I made that reply I noticed the "return to General Forum " button. Hey, I had never noticed it before - sorry. :confused:

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The two biggest gripes I have are having to log in each time I come to the board if I want to submit a post; and having the choice of how many days post I want to show on the board always default to 20 instead of the 2 I would prefer. That makes an already long loading process even longer.

:mad:

Michael

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Steve, I have one request for the the upgraded forum. Please disable

the requirement to "log in" before one can post.

The thing that's bad about this is that it requires the use of cookies

and, like many PC users, I almost never turn on cookies for security reasons.

And if I turn them on just to post to a forum, then I have to go remove

them manually, since I never leave cookies on the system and never assume

they will erase themselves. This is a huge hassle, especially if it's

on a forum where one posts very often, like many of us do on the great

CM forum. smile.gif

Plus it's totally unnecessary, if I type in my name and password every time

I post a message, that is all the proof I need to show I'm who I say I am.

Now, if someone wants to use such a feature so they don't have to type in

their name and password for each post, fine. But please don't make the

rest of us have to use it in order to post. Personally, I don't mind

typing in my name one bit; I'm so used to it, it takes about 2 seconds

to type it out. smile.gif And it's far, far less trouble for those of us

that leave cookies turned off all the time (which I know many

knowledgeable users do).

What do you say, Steve? smile.gif

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I still don't like it. FIX or DO SOMEFINK! tongue.gif:D

As for the cookie thing Lee suggests above. The old Forum never did remember my name and password. I had to type it in everytime I logged in. Now I'm always logged in after I logged in the first time,

So if you don't like cookies, that sounds like a personal problem to me. I like going to a site and it already knows who I am.

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Big Time Software:

What should have been an easy upgrade has already consumed 16 hours of time. And we are still not done yet :mad:

Steve<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I quit thinking any software upgrades would go well years ago! HE! HE! Obviously, you haven't had the optimism beaten out of you yet! I've been in this business for 20 years now and I still can't believe some of the stuff that happens! I feel for you. I remember one time when I had to rebuild and restore a Novell server twice in the same night. It had to be up when everyone came to work in the morning. I think that was a 22 hour day! AAAHHH!

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Why do people have problems with cookies? Have they ever caused a problem for anyone? I like that they remember all my preferences and passwords for various sites, and the cookie.txt file is rather small. What is the big deal (I ask innocently)? :confused:

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I kind of like it... I was a fan of the old UBB back in the days when most people used weird and archaic bulletin board software, and it's cool to see that they're evolving. Most of the websites that I frequent seem to have gone to this "new" version of UBB. I especially like that the font size is in a normal size and not at the point where I have to View->Text Size->Smaller every time I come in ;). However I agree with most people that the colors could do with a change...

Keep up the good work,

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pvt. Ryan:

Why do people have problems with cookies? Have they ever caused a problem for anyone? I like that they remember all my preferences and passwords for various sites, and the cookie.txt file is rather small. What is the big deal (I ask innocently)? :confused:<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

they could send back info about where you surf to the their evil corporate masters.

you are not compensated at all for this, and rarely given a choice about it either.

bfast, nettaxi, doubleclick all leave cookies even tho you probably never went to their site because of their banners at other websites...they proabably record your surfing habits and report back be sold to ad companies.

and besides stealing your data with little or no warning(a triple reduce sized warning at the bottom of a another webpage doesn't count morally, even if it does legally...) that doesn't even cover those companies' annoying triple new window open ads, freaking keep reopening no matter how many times you click, and the all time favorite, crash the browser crapola.

How wish that i could give those aSSinine companies a taste of the annoyances they caused me.

you COULD turn off cookies, but that just leaves some sites useless(yahoo won't work unless i have permenant cookies enabled) or inconvienient like this UBB since you'd have to re-type data everytime you post.

i just downloaded Cookies manager from http://www.zdnet.com and apparently it is working well stopping cookies from annoying sites while keeping the good.

if you want it search for "Cookies" i think and look for the one that has a lot of stars from both zdnet, users, AND is free.

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I never, ever click on internet ads, so I don't care which ads show up on my browser. I suppose without cookies I am still going to see ads, so the worst thing that happens with cookies is that I see ads for things in which I might actually have some interest. The only infinite open browsers I have run accross are on porn sites, or so I have been told. ;) I If those are the biggest concerns about cookies, then I don't see what the big deal is. If someone is collecting data that might somehow be used to my detriment, then I would be concerned. I don't want to turn this into an OT thread on cookies, but I am glad the forum remembers who I am and which posts I have already read.

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by russellmz:

...i just downloaded Cookies manager from http://www.zdnet.com and apparently it is working well stopping cookies from annoying sites while keeping the good.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I use Junkbuster at work. (Unfortunately IE5.5 doesn't support proxys when using a modem. :( )

It allows me to choose which servers to accept setting cookies, as well as block other URLs (like *.doubleclick.com) from being downloaded at all. Works great!

Cheers

Olle

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Lee wrote:

The thing that's bad about this is that it requires the use of cookies and, like many PC users, I almost never turn on cookies for security reasons.

The thing that I use is to make the cookie-file write-protected. I don't know whether it works with Windows and Internet Exploder, but I do all my surfing under Linux in any case.

When the cookie-file is write-protected, the browser will hold the cookie in memory, but it will not be written, so when you exit the browser the cookie disappears.

This has the added bonus that, for example, Doubleclick has now (probably) ~700 entries for me. If enough people do this, it will hopefully bust their database.

- Tommi

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tss:

The thing that I use is to make the cookie-file write-protected. I don't know whether it works with Windows and Internet Exploder

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I use the same trick with Netscape under Windows. IE writes a seperate file for every cookie and is capable of removing any writeprotection you put on files or directories it wants to use. (At least when i tried, but I don't think it's easier now)

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