WWIIRulz Posted February 21, 2000 Share Posted February 21, 2000 Did you hear that SSI is going to be making another sequel: Close Combat V. Supposedly it may be set in the Normandy Theatre. They said Amphibious units and naval gunfire will be present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted February 21, 2000 Share Posted February 21, 2000 Aha, I made a bet that CCV would be set in Normandy about 3 months ago... Time to collect my winnings . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanE Posted February 21, 2000 Share Posted February 21, 2000 But the question here is: Once CM is on your harddrive, who will want to play CC V? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamse Posted February 21, 2000 Share Posted February 21, 2000 WWIIRulz Please don't post such unimportant news ! Tell me what your cat ate for lunch, what your grandmas favorite TV-show is, what your girlfriends/wifes favorite color is but not ANYTHING about CC 4/5/6/7/8...... that is static noise in your favorite song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darstand Posted February 21, 2000 Share Posted February 21, 2000 CC V ---Proof that Cr*p never dies, it is just recycled, wrapped in plastic, and sold again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanzfeld Posted February 21, 2000 Share Posted February 21, 2000 The CC series may not be that realistic but it is far from crap. I had a BLAST with CC2. Many, many, many nights were lost to playing a friend on the zone in CC2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 Well one thing is for sure, CCV (or VI for that matter ) will have no chance whatsoever of competing with CM on a realism or AI level. And not much chance in any other significant area either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 Now, now.. Let's not get into CC-bashing. It only starts flamewars . I think what others are trying to say is that they don't feel CC is as realistic or detailed a wargame as Combat Mission. I think they would agree that, when not held to the realism standards of a hard-core wargame, Close Combat is a fun game. Again, it all depends what you want out of it. A fun RTS with somewhat accurate units... Great, CC is for you... Do you want a rigidly accurate (as far as is possible given the fact that records are incomplete etc) hard-core wargame? .. Great, CM is for you. Different strokes for different folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 I think the CC series could be much better if they would just get the kinks/bugs out before going on to the next game in the series. Personally, I like the series. It can be fun. However, things like AI pathfinding, infantry being far too easy to spot and kill along with line of site problems really detract from the game. I they would just get it right before releasing it.......gee where have I heard that before Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamse Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fionn: I think what others are trying to say is that they don't feel CC is as realistic or detailed a wargame as Combat Mission. I think they would agree that, when not held to the realism standards of a hard-core wargame, Close Combat is a fun game. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Fionn have you played CC4 ? Realistic ? I lost that hope in CC3 but with realred it was fun (when it wasn't annoying). You can tweak CC4 for years but you will never make a fun game! Look at the grafiks, since when is a Jagdtiger the same size as a Jadgpanther ? The Strategic Layer is a joke! My cat(he is dead) would have made it better! They made it too make money and .............I hate Atomic ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Captain Foobar Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 I have to confess, I am currently playing a campaign in CC-4, someone gave it to me for Christmas, and it has helped me pass the time until release a great deal! I liked Command & Conquer, and I think of Close Combat as just a WW2 version of the game. (although I have been having a hell of a time finding any Tiberium in Bastogne.... At least I built some Obelisks of Light to provide fire support for my Kampfgruppe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Captain Foobar Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 Ummmm..... I don't know whether to laugh or cry... I just lost a scenario in CC4, as Germans, because at the time the Americans morale was low enough to make them retreat/disband/end scenario, they had men on more victory locations than I did. I guess that the strategy is to charge out, grab all the victory locations, and surrender as fast as you can!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Captain Foobar: I don't know whether to laugh or cry... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Here is something to make you cry....I applied the latest patch (4.02) to CC4 in hopes of playing a campaign game. In the first battle two things happened that make me want to remove the game from my HD. First, that *&%$* rocket halftrack shows up and with its laser guided, never miss indirect fire and wipes out about 3 tanks with 3 shots. If that wasn't enough, during the same battle I have a hidden AT gun set up perfectly to ambush a panther. The panther moves down the road and presents a broadside shot to my AT gun at about 50m. My AT gun says it's "rotating" then "seeking cover" then "rotating" again. I am shouting "fire the dang gun you morons!" All the while the panther stops, rotates its turret, aims and blows my AT gun to hell. Man that is frustrating! Especially when it happens more than once in a battle. It serves the gun crew right. If it takes them more than 30 seconds to aim and fire they deserve to die and have their little electron souls banished forever to my daughter's Teletubbie game. Not that I am bitter or anything Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanE Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fionn: Now, now.. Let's not get into CC-bashing. It only starts flamewars . <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Didn't mean anything negative towards CC. I played CC 1 & 2 a bunch. However, when CM is released, I don't see CC staying on my harddrive. And then there will be CM 2 and then CM 3 and then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werfer Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 the cc series is/was fun, the pg series is still fun, but the cm series?. Gotta show me more than a very good beta to convince me that this game has both extended playability and realism on a scale set between the before mentioned series. thanks werfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen. Sosaboski Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 I bought CC2 due to its and CC1s good reviews and had a heck of a lot of un playing with it, adding maps, scenarios, etc. Besides it had Airborne Poles . Yeah, I did hear some bad stuff about CC3 and 4 and that's why I haven't bought them. To each his own, though. ------------------ Sosabowski, 1st Pol. Abn. Yes, I know my name is spelled wrong as a member! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hundminen Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 How many guy's here slagging Close Combat have actually tried playing CC2 on the zone? I doubt many! Yes, it's true the CC series has many faults, is not very realistic, and the (solo)campaigns generally suck. However, for sheer entertainment value CC2 on the zone can't be beat (no comment on CC3 or CC4). Many of the battles here take on an almost chess-like strategy. And definitely not as un-realistic as Panzer General or Command and Conquer (c'mon Cap'n Foobar - please! ). I admit that after the CC3 came out, it turned me off CC for well over a year, but I have returned to CC2 on the zone recently, and it's still one helluva hoot! Besides, there's more than 3 scenario's Hundminen [This message has been edited by Hundminen (edited 02-21-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Captain Foobar Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>?. Gotta show me more than a very good beta to convince me that this game has both extended playability and realism on a scale set between the before mentioned series.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Everything that I have seen here at Battlefront, and at combathq.thegamers.net leads me to believe that your concerns will be met. There will be a gold demo, we all await patiently. Extended Playablity? DYO scenarios, and extensive editors have been promised, and previewed. Realism on the scale of the Close Combat series? It should knock our socks off! All I meant with the CC = C&C analogy was that I play them both for enjoyment, not realism. [This message has been edited by Captain Foobar (edited 02-21-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 I think one thing that needs to be elucidated here is that many make a GREAT distinction between CC 1 and 2 and CC3 and 4. I enjoyed both CC1 and CC2. I heard Steve say he liked CC2 a coupe of times on the forum etc... I think a lot of people who played both CC 1 and CC 2 didn't like CC3 and CC4 for much the same reason I didn't like them. DanE, I know how u feel . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolColJ Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 Bring on SUdden STrike! I'd rather play Sudden Strike than CC5 - Sudden STrike looks like bags of funs ------------------ CCJ aka BLITZ_Force My Hompage ----> http://www.geocities.com/coolcolj Double your immersion with my Tweaked Textures and Saving Private Ryan sound set mods for CM!! Check out my new Textures V2.0 photo Gallery and my music while your there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knaust Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 hey guys you are speaking of two completely different games! I agree that CC3 and CC4 are a bit(err...lot?) sucking, but if you want an adhrenaline game, play an opponent at CC2 on the zone and you will see! If wou want a more realistic, but slow-pace game play CM. I enjoy both CC2 and CM, and I dislike religious wars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomm Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 I have bought Close Combat IV and I do NOT regret it! I will buy Combat Mission and I know I will NOT regret it! Since there are Demos you can play I do not know why people are buying games they do not like any more. I did not like the CC4 demo at all, but then the battlegroup mods came up for the demo and I had some of the best Close Combat battles of my life (including CC2). If you accept the limitations of the game system it is a very beautiful and intense game. I think that CC and CM are complementary. I do not want to miss either of them. Regards, Thomm ------------------ Some stuff at http://www.fortunecity.com/olympia/simpson/870/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howardb Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 I've bought all the CC games just because I'm afraid I'll miss out on something if I didn't but I must say I really feel cheated on the last game. The two major gripes I got is the über Wurfs, they're the secret weapons of the third reich you never heard about on Discovery. The second is the totally stupid voice cues for the Germans. It's pretty obvious that the game is made for children (age 3-8) because if you have to make the Germans sound like bad guys to know who they were... CC4 is deffinately their (atomic) worst CC. Tank fests where all the gunners and drivers are either drunk or high. With all that said I'll probably buy CC5 when it arrives (some people just don't learn) hoping that I'll get my CC2 back. Hundminen doesn't remember me but I remember seeing someone called that on the Zone years ago (and some of the other nicks circulating here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomm Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 Dear HowardB! Download the CC IV patches, set difficulty to veteran or higher for the German player and voila: Wurfrahmen gone forever from your game! I think you can also make your own battles with infantry battlegroups only (I am not sure, though). Also play the city maps where every destroyed vehicle will block the paths of all others, so you have to protect your armour very well. Rushing vehicles forward without infantry cover almost always results in its destruction. That ain't that bad, is it? Regards, Thomm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eichmann2 Posted February 22, 2000 Share Posted February 22, 2000 Just read an article in the press, Atomic are rewriting the AI from scratch as well as introducing totally new animations etc. Who knows, gang, it may just be worth a look? Personally, I take the view as expressed above that a lot of FUN can be had in CC if you take it with its limitations. End of lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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