Vadr Posted November 19, 2000 Share Posted November 19, 2000 Hi, I'm new to CMBO, although this ain't my first rodeo when it comes to small-unit tactics. I started a PBEM game with an old friend, 1500 pt Combined Arms Meeting Engagement, with 'the Rule of 76s' in effect. I'm down wit' dat, I understand and agree with the Rule, I think it's a good thing. Now, my problem: My friend picked up a few Churchill VIII's, which have managed to pretty much 1-shot kill 2 of my Pz IV's and a Hetzer with those 95mm hollow-core rounds. Those same tanks are now in the process of dismembering my Infantry with HE, of course My question: should I insist on being allowed to purchase Tiger Is going forward ( a suggested modification to the rule) if Churchill VIII's are allowed, or should I just take my lumps this time and get over it? Thanks ------------------ Vadr Kommandeur III/JG2 'Richthofen' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee Posted November 19, 2000 Share Posted November 19, 2000 Honestly I just think you were unlucky against the VIII, I would put IV's and Hetzers against the VIII anyday. I think you just had a run of bad luck. ------------------ Veni, vidi, panzerschrecki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treeburst155 Posted November 19, 2000 Share Posted November 19, 2000 Since you are using the Panther 76 Rule, you probably should buy Panthers so your tanks have a chance against his stuff. ------------------ I wish tall pines and woods did not use the same treebase .bmp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest captain,ro Posted November 19, 2000 Share Posted November 19, 2000 hello all, first let me say that i have tryed to search this alot. would someone pleasetell me or show me where i can find the rules of 75 and 76s? thanks all ro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted November 19, 2000 Share Posted November 19, 2000 I've been around for ever on this board and for the life of me, I haven't got the slightest idea of what you're talking about concerning the "76 Rule" The way I look at this game, is that it is not *just* a game, but simulated war. And as we all know, "All's fair in love and war." [This message has been edited by Maximus (edited 11-18-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrew Hedges Posted November 19, 2000 Share Posted November 19, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by captain,ro: hello all, first let me say that i have tryed to search this alot. would someone pleasetell me or show me where i can find the rules of 75 and 76s? thanks all ro<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Try this link: http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/Forum1/HTML/010410.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted November 19, 2000 Share Posted November 19, 2000 Fionn's Rule??? Well he can go and do something else, if you know what I mean. All's fair in love and war, I say! Your opponent has a little bigger gun than you, so what? Find a way to deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybeq Posted November 19, 2000 Share Posted November 19, 2000 While I understand one's desire to put some kind of AFV limit on a PBEM game I can't seem to shake the idea that this is contrary to actual warfare. In our sometimes overzealous desire to make everything "fair" we might wind up with a PBEM more akin to chess than a simulation of a WWII battle. Why not just dictate all the armor pieces each side gets? I think the fact that the heavies cost more is a good enough limit in and of itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest aaronb Posted November 19, 2000 Share Posted November 19, 2000 try: http://members.home.net/jagdcarcajou/pbemrules.htm It has nothing to do with fair, it has to do with playing a game without endless JagdT's and Jumbos. Fair only comes in if your opponent agrees then reneges. Then you don't play them again. If you don't like it, don't agree to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak Posted November 19, 2000 Share Posted November 19, 2000 Aaronb, good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Posted November 19, 2000 Share Posted November 19, 2000 let the program pick the forces. Works most of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Posted November 19, 2000 Share Posted November 19, 2000 My only real problem withe the Panther 76 rule is that it allows Panthers but not Tiger Is, even though the Panther is the better tank (especially in tank vs tank). It would be better if Tigers were allowed but not Panthers. I would also allow the Nashhorn. Great gun, but the armor is so thin anything that hits it will kill it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rex_Bellator Posted November 19, 2000 Share Posted November 19, 2000 Got to agree with Tiger on this one. The best PBEM games I've had have been where the computer has picked the forces. You find yourself having to cope with all sorts of different situations, you rarely have the force you'd want, but then again neither does your opponent. Very realistic! ------------------ "We're not here to take it - We're here to give it!" General Morshead's response to the popular newspaper headline "Tobruk Can Take It!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest captain,ro Posted November 19, 2000 Share Posted November 19, 2000 thanks Andrew Hedges and Aaronb for the information, i was just courious about this topic. myself i always try to the best of my ability to pick a force that is somewhat historical. thanks again ro ------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juardis Posted November 20, 2000 Share Posted November 20, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vanir: I would also allow the Nashhorn. Great gun, but the armor is so thin anything that hits it will kill it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Just to back this statement up, I killed two Nashorns with a 0.50 team. Unfortunately, those same 2 Nash's took out 5-6 of my tanks from 1000m before my 0.50 could get close enough. ------------------ Jeff Abbott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vadr Posted November 20, 2000 Author Share Posted November 20, 2000 Just a little update to this. Late in the Scenario, this same Churchill took 3 rounds to the turret front from an 88 at just over 500 yards. All 3 rounds bounced off and the Church dispatched my 88 with 2 HE rounds. Some days, it doesn't pay to get out of bed. Writing it off to bad luck, and recommending that Church Crew for the VC. NEXT! ------------------ Vadr Kommandeur III/JG2 'Richthofen' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarmo Posted November 20, 2000 Share Posted November 20, 2000 IMHO, the Tiger should be allowed in 76 rule. It's only exluded because of the 88 gun, but the gun is less powerful than Panthers. For the original question, if you need to kill Churchills, go with the Panther. It's way better for that. Tigers 88 has big problems against Churchill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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