slysniper Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Without running test, see if you can guess the results of this battle. Panther Pz VG vs Sherman M4A3E2 76 Jumbo Both have Veteran crews, distance 740 meters, front armor to front armor Out of 20 battles what was the results. [ November 08, 2006, 02:10 PM: Message edited by: slysniper ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patboy Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Panther win after a single shot at the weak point! sorry I forgot to give my average 15/20 for the "panther". Pat [ November 10, 2006, 08:10 AM: Message edited by: patboy ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripp Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Well, the upgunned Jumbo should win more because of its better armor...I'd *guess* that the guns are roughly even...maybe an advantage to the 76, though. I'd guess Sherman wins 14/20. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slysniper Posted November 9, 2006 Author Share Posted November 9, 2006 I will let this go a week or until someone gets the correct answer, only one guess per person, so in other words 14/20 to the Sherman is not correct. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostRider3/3 Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 I would go with the Panther... 13/20 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtsjc1 Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Without HVAP I don't think the 76 is going to penetrate the Panther front too often at this range. I'd say 16/20 to the Panther. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow Warrior Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 My first guess was 14/20 for the Sherman which was wrong as was Tripp, yet I know the real answer. Slysniper told me. Keep guessing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slysniper Posted November 10, 2006 Author Share Posted November 10, 2006 HVAP seems to be pretty standard for the units in CMBO, definitely late model Shermans, So most of them had the HVAP but I did not bother to check, just used what the game gave me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Carr Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Interesting thread. My guess is Sherman wins 15 out of 20. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitchen frizzy Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 I'll stake out Panther 12/20. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jBrereton Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Panther wins 11/20. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slysniper Posted November 10, 2006 Author Share Posted November 10, 2006 The process of elimination will get a winner soon. Of course I wonder how well the test would prove if I had a 100 results instead of 20. But I have better things to do with my time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jBrereton Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Who's been closest so far? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergeltungswaffe Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 10 each 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slysniper Posted November 12, 2006 Author Share Posted November 12, 2006 There is the answer, Vergeltungswaffe hit it, and my results were 10 kills each. The interesting thing was both sides had their share of the tank armor being able to deflect shots. Also the more testing done might vary the average some but I beat it would not likely change more than 1 out of 20 as a average or a 5% variance. So jBrereton, your answer could be correct, just not what I had. Watching my test, I could say the Panther might have done better, if given enough test. If one side was unlucky, it was the Panther [ November 11, 2006, 06:17 PM: Message edited by: slysniper ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixxkiller Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 I just did this with the tanks at 998m. The Jumbo won 14-5 with one draw. It also seemed to just be more accurate and had 2 first shot kills. Panther had none. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slysniper Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share Posted November 13, 2006 I just ran the same test at 1000m. The Jumbo won 12-8 in my test. I let the machine pick armor by default, 4 of 5 shermans had Tungsten doing it this way. I noted only one first round kill and it was against a panther, keep in mind the game AI never shoots special ammo on the first shot. Also noted the amount of Ricochets was much higher at this range for both tanks with one battle lasting 7 minutes with the sherman winning and having only one AP round left. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripp Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Interesting. The Panther's 75mm did better than I thought. I wonder what would happen at 500m. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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