DEF BUNGIS Posted August 24, 2000 Share Posted August 24, 2000 Just browsing thru and seen this. Has anyone played the demo? Is the game as detailed as CM? It sure seems to be selling big in Europe. http://cgi.pcgameworld.com/pcgw/news/viewnews.cgi?newsid966938614,27193, ------------------ Better to make the wrong decision than be the sorry son of a bitch to scared to make one at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smack Posted August 24, 2000 Share Posted August 24, 2000 I didnt like it, It was just wierd. But it doesn't mean you wont, so try it out. For really great wargaming though, play Combat Mission! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aka_tom_w Posted August 24, 2000 Share Posted August 24, 2000 I read its promo material first off it looks good but is it is NOT 3D The game maker's stress they wanted good "game play" over realism. all the units are sprites in an isometric 2D veiw like Warcraft or Age of Empires. I don't really think it is comparable to CM in any way other than it is another WW II video game. But I did not play teh demo as I have a Mac and their game is onlyf or windoze users. -tom w ------------------ <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> "Remember that no dumb bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." G. S. Patton <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> [This message has been edited by aka_tom_w (edited 08-24-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEF BUNGIS Posted August 24, 2000 Author Share Posted August 24, 2000 Oh ya smack, like I need to play more Combat Mission...... Lord have mercy, if I play any more CM i'll need to mutate into two people. I just saw this news on Sudden strike and was wondering how it compares to CM. I have not played the demo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertanker Posted August 24, 2000 Share Posted August 24, 2000 I played the SS demo in the long, dark days between release of CM and its arrival on my doorstep. It is pretty much Command & Conquer with WWII graphics. Units have hit points, for example, and various weapons just remove them at higher or lower rates. A group of riflemen could shoot at your KT from a distance and eventually kill it (by erosion?). Something that originally turned me off of C&C was that the Mammoth Tanks weren't immune to most weapons, so that didn't exactly make me want to play any more SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flipper Posted August 24, 2000 Share Posted August 24, 2000 it blow's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MantaRay Posted August 24, 2000 Share Posted August 24, 2000 Yep, it is garbage. Comparing it to AOE 2 is not fair, as AOE 2 is a good game. Ray ------------------ When asked, "How many moves do you see ahead?", CAPABLANCA replied: "One move - the best one." New CM Site. In process of switching. Brought to you by Hardcore Gamers Daily Hardcore Gamers Daily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanaka Posted August 24, 2000 Share Posted August 24, 2000 I´ve played the demo and ARGHHH ... it´s another Warcraft clone, this time in 2nd WW... Download it / played it / Delete it... all in 20 mins,15 mins for the download Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashford Posted August 24, 2000 Share Posted August 24, 2000 Got to agree with the above, pretty naff compared to CM, in fact there is no real comparison other than PC games in WW2. However, comnpared to games like C&C it isn't too bad, just a modern version which ha learnt from a few mistakes fromprevious games and ignored a few others. But I should imagine that the demo pretty much gives you what you are going to get in the ful version so I would save your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMC Posted August 24, 2000 Share Posted August 24, 2000 If CM is your cup of tea then you should steer clear of SS. It is a strange breed of RTS. There is no building or research trees. You get your units and a mission. It becomes like a puzzle figuring out the right way to accomplish the mission. The units are standard RTS hit point entities but IIRC the armor takes damage faster from the flanks than from the front. Rifles can still take tanks out. If none of this turns you off, then you might enjoy it, though the replay value seems to be about nil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogie Posted August 24, 2000 Share Posted August 24, 2000 Tried the demo a long time ago. It's the old idea... different sprites. Definitely not for me. Amazing amount sold, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barb Posted August 24, 2000 Share Posted August 24, 2000 "The game maker's stress they wanted good "game play" over realism" Hmm, why didn't they do it like CM: good gameplay with realism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochen2 Posted August 24, 2000 Share Posted August 24, 2000 It looks nice - but thats all! If you like to go into the deep (in a wargame) Ãt is not the right thing for you. Jochen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard 101st Posted August 24, 2000 Share Posted August 24, 2000 People I have talked to said it is VERY hard, there are 100's of units fighting and it gets overly chaotic. The screenshots look good for a 2D game, but I think it is going to be way to hectic for me, at 51 my RTS gaming days are close to ending. One preview even wondered how anyone could control up to 1000 units on the screen! This is what the developer said, that many units. CM would be very very hard to beat, its better than any RTS game and TB game I have played. ------------------ -kill 'em all and let God sort them out- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Brizee Posted August 24, 2000 Share Posted August 24, 2000 my chum has it, and yes, there are sometiems something like 1000 units on screen at once, but only for 20 seconds or so until they are all burning wrecks or bloody piles I do like how the weapons actually do have some range to them, and unlike Command and Conquer, TANKS HAVE MACHINEGUNS! That's what pissed me off most about C and C, the only way to kill infantry with tanks was to squish em. But the tanks handled like expensive cars, so it wasn't a real problem. Most of my friends aren't into CM, because it is too complex for them, so occasionally I get a "no brainer" game so I can play against them and smack them around a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntelWeenie Posted August 24, 2000 Share Posted August 24, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DEF BUNGIS: Lord have mercy, if I play any more CM i'll need to mutate into two people. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Would you then be called "DEF BUNGII"? I didn't care a whit for the demo, either. ------------------ "Belly to belly and everything's better" - Russian proverb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Posted August 25, 2000 Share Posted August 25, 2000 It is basically World War 2 with a health bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juju Posted August 25, 2000 Share Posted August 25, 2000 Compared to many (or should I say any) other wargames, I felt it was a little like playing with a child's toy. ------------------ I am not a racialist, but, und this is a big but, we in the National Bocialist Party believe das überleben muss gestammen sein mit der schneaky Armstrong-Jones. (Mr. Hilter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEF BUNGIS Posted August 25, 2000 Author Share Posted August 25, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IntelWeenie: Would you then be called "DEF BUNGII"? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> No. It would be similar to the hotchkisss. Only mine would be DEF BUNGISS. (Pronounced DEF BUNGISES) Hey, my NICK has sentimental values. People just wouldn't understand. Any way, back to the SS demo. So from what I gather, the people bying this game are more stradegy gamers than war gamers huh. I wonder how many of them are real wargamers who don't know about CM. Must be livin' under a friggin rock. Maybe we should invade thier forum and spread the word. ------------------ Better to make the wrong decision than be the sorry son of a bitch to scared to make one at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OberGrupenStompinFeuhrer! Posted August 25, 2000 Share Posted August 25, 2000 I d/l'd and played the demo to death back in Feb/March or so. The eye candy is pretty nice, but tactics are a bit lame. My main flanking tactic consisted of driving tanks through the woods, blowing trees out of the ground as I went, and stopping to reload from the ammo truck every so often. Then one wonderful day, some clown-boy on the BB over at SS posted about this "feeble attempt at a Sudden Strike wannabe called Combat Mission" and he posted the link. Haven't been back, not even once..... See? Even clown-boys have a purpose! OGSF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Duke Posted August 25, 2000 Share Posted August 25, 2000 Hey DEF... wheres that PBEM file? If you did send one it most likely went to my work email and did not get through the firewall. I recently set up an account with Mindspring and am ready for battle. Do your worst Sergeant. ------------------ One shot...One Kill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEF BUNGIS Posted August 25, 2000 Author Share Posted August 25, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Iron Duke: Hey DEF... wheres that PBEM file.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Oh, I didn't know if you had the game already. I know, I know, it sounds like I'm scared. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> Do your worst Sergeant. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Thats it, how dare a DAT talk to me that way! Prepare your little REMF units. You must pay for your insuboordination! ------------------ Better to make the wrong decision than be the sorry son of a bitch to scared to make one at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Duke Posted August 25, 2000 Share Posted August 25, 2000 Hehe... file has been sent! Straight from the depths of Hell itself, Cry Havoc! and let slip the Dogs of War... ------------------ One shot...One Kill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Duke Posted August 26, 2000 Share Posted August 26, 2000 It is now 14:48 hrs here in SoCal. I will be arriving at my HQ at or around 19:00 hrs. Hostilities will comence shortly thereafter. Death to that odiferous DEF BUNGIS! DEF BUNGIS....heheheh mmmnt DEF BUNGHOLE....hehheh DEF BUNGHOLIO....need TP for my BUNGHOLE...hehehheh mmmnt heheh Prepare your men Sergeant, and be sure to issue out all the pacifiers...they'll need them once I smack them around like a red-headded step-child. ------------------ One shot...One Kill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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