sttp Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 I just saw this album (132 images) from Anzio '44, and there were lots of pics of German armor that I had never seen before. Thought some of you would enjoy it also. http://imgur.com/a/nnYkd (Note: even though it's tagged NSFW, there's really nothing too graphic in there -- a few bodies, but no gore.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobetco Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 (edited) the Italian frogmen was interesting, don't think I've ever seen pictures of them, besides that 2 photos caught my eye this because it looks weird with the Tiger in the background, I suspect this lack of juxtaposition was done on purpose to fool people into thinking that Panzer II had a big gun (this was of course an era before Photoshop.) if not then the Photographer was awful because that's a poor way to lay out a composition. and this caught my eye because in FI we don't have access to the Pak 36, but here are some fallschirmjager hanging out with one. now its probably a staged photo. but its interesting to note that Pak 36's were still floating around somewhere near the front Edited February 18, 2017 by Cobetco 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, Cobetco said: and this caught my eye because in FI we don't have access to the Pak 36, but here are some fallschirmjager hanging out with one. now its probably a staged photo. but its interesting to note that Pak 36's were still floating around somewhere near the front Since they are paratroops they probably needed some kind of lightweight anti-armor protection that was air transportable and hand maneuverable. While of little to no use against the frontal armor of medium tanks, they could probably have penetrated the side armor. As well, they would still have been effective against such light armor as armored cars and halftracks. So, worth bringing along if you couldn't manage anything bigger. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobetco Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 I just realized the Panzer II isn't in FI either... interesting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Sturmpanzer Abteilung 216 had a platoon of 5x Pz II at this time, an addition unique to this battalion. The photo is not staged, but from a series of the Sturmpanzer battalion moving past an immobilized Tiger of Schwere Panzer Abteilung 508. 37mm Pak 36 is in CMFI as an option for the Fallschirmjager regimental AT company. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobetco Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 1 hour ago, akd said: 37mm Pak 36 is in CMFI as an option for the Fallschirmjager regimental AT company. GAH you are right! I mistakenly assumed the Luftwaffe Panzergrenadiers would be using them as well and didn't switch to the airborne infantry tab. interesting note they are available in FB too, but only as teams, not organic units. and are not listed in the manual. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 The Germans tended to not throw anything away that could still shoot. So you see a lot of obsolete matériel equipping second line units, or as in this case, filling a slot that nothing else on hand might do. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nik mond Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Don't forget the pak36 comes equipped with a couple stielgranate rounds. Those big honking rifle grenades can be effective at taking out most armour that gets caught in its range. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saferight Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 On 2/18/2017 at 4:40 PM, akd said: Sturmpanzer Abteilung 216 had a platoon of 5x Pz II at this time, an addition unique to this battalion. The photo is not staged, but from a series of the Sturmpanzer battalion moving past an immobilized Tiger of Schwere Panzer Abteilung 508. 37mm Pak 36 is in CMFI as an option for the Fallschirmjager regimental AT company. Yeah when i was putting this album together i was surprised to see the Sturmpanzer Units had Panzer IIs attached. What would have been the reasoning been behind that? Similar reason as to why the kind of early Tiger units had Panzer IIINs perhaps? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 29 minutes ago, Saferight said: Yeah when i was putting this album together i was surprised to see the Sturmpanzer Units had Panzer IIs attached. What would have been the reasoning been behind that? Similar reason as to why the kind of early Tiger units had Panzer IIINs perhaps? Can't really speak to why the PzKw II got the job, but in the case of the IIIn it was to provide support to the heavies. The IIIn had the short L/24 gun useful for soft targets and such amenities as smoke, leaving the heavies to take care of what only they could do. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckman Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 The 1943 Sturmpz Abt TOE actually has three Pz III: http://www.sturmpanzer.com/Default.aspx?tabindex=2&tabid=302&item=1&sec=2 Seems they were never issued though, with the origin and tasks of the five Pz II in the abovementioned battalion being uncertain. Probably they were meant as recon, close protection and general runarounds just like the Pz III in the Tiger battallions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostRider3/3 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Say I know this thread is old as hell, but couple questions. I was just reading about some battles around Anzio. I think there is something wrong with the TOE or maybe it is date specific. I tried to do some work in the Scenario Editor and can not locate any Waffen SS units. Even though a KG was involved in the Anzio area. Later it operated as a Division from May 1944 till its surrendered in Austria. Interesting note was that its Training Replacement Battalion was involved during the Arnhem battles. Anyways its been awhile since I loaded up Gustav line and cant get Northern Italy... so maybe I asked this question earlier, will this be available in the next installment. Best regards, James. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 You will need to wait for next module for Waffen SS, but elements fo 16. SS will be available in the Anzio timeframe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy56 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) There will also be Luftwaffe Field Divisions. From what I've seen there were two of them deployed in Northern Italy, and shortly torn apart after being engaged on the front just like most of them. https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2015/11/21/the-19th-and-20th-luftwaffe-field-divisions/ Gebirgsjaeger are also coming, probably. Edited May 20, 2019 by Frenchy56 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostRider3/3 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Good to know thank you. Cant wait for the next Italian addition and Red Thunder. Semper Fi. James. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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