delliejonut Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 There Can Be Only One Was playing the first mission from A Moment in Time the other day. I decided to advance up the left flank to the bridge, and left my trucks behind some buildings in cover. However, I dismounted my drivers to man the MG's on my halftracks. Some ways into the battle I noticed that my trucks were being knocked out one by one. It took me several turns to realize the trucks were being knocked out whenever its respective driver was killed. I'm not necessarily complaining... truck driving is an art few are equipped for lol. Just wondering if anyone else has noticed this, is it a bug or intentional, yada yada. I could understand the reasoning for it... but then again it's thousands of rounds of ammo gone just like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMac Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 How about Truck Drivers or Motorbikes...Will take the latter. Joe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMac Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Interesting situation indeed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 The driver must have the keys. But seriously I think it would be nice if one was able to acquire some if not most of the ammo from a non-burning knocked out vehicle. Likewise I think it would be desirable to somehow be able to do buddy aid to casualties inside a vehicle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerner Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Teamsters Union strikes again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyO Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Teamsters Union strikes again! Got a kick out of your avatar, mjkerner. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delliejonut Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 The driver must have the keys. But seriously I think it would be nice if one was able to acquire some if not most of the ammo from a non-burning knocked out vehicle. Likewise I think it would be desirable to somehow be able to do buddy aid to casualties inside a vehicle. Interesting and valid points both. It should be noted my vehicles took no damage of any kind though, and are open-backed. Teamsters Union strikes again! Haha! I guess the trucks are remaining locked until the drivers receive full workers comp... unfortunately the ensuing court battle is out of the scope of a tactical simulation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I just tried this. I was not able to reproduce it. What I did was put the two trucks and half tracks in a safe place and dismounted every one - passengers too. I put one squad back in one truck just to see if there was a difference between an empty truck and a full one. Then I put the crews up front and ran them to take the objectives. All dead within two minutes. All transport were find. I am running the newest version 3.11 of CMBN 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerner Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Got a kick out of your avatar, mjkerner. Me too. Had it sitting in my photos/pics folder for years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerner Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 That was my experience, too, Ian. @ delliejonut, are you certain it wasn't just coincidental/observation bias? We're the trucks actually knocked out with appropriate destroyed icon, or just that they wouldn't take movement orders but otherwise had no damage? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delliejonut Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 I'll see if I can recreate it or I might still have a save file for you guys to look at. I just tried this. I was not able to reproduce it. What I did was put the two trucks and half tracks in a safe place and dismounted every one - passengers too. I put one squad back in one truck just to see if there was a difference between an empty truck and a full one. Then I put the crews up front and ran them to take the objectives. All dead within two minutes. All transport were find. I am running the newest version 3.11 of CMBN The only thing I did differently was allowing the truck drivers to man the halftrack mgs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delliejonut Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 That was my experience, too, Ian. @ delliejonut, are you certain it wasn't just coincidental/observation bias? We're the trucks actually knocked out with appropriate destroyed icon, or just that they wouldn't take movement orders but otherwise had no damage? That's entirely possible, but IIRC, I closely watched a turn in which my truck had been destroyed. I drew the connection between the driver and the truck itself when the driver bought it, then 5 or 10 seconds later the truck became knocked out. To clarify, the trucks were actually knocked out with a red X and everything, but appeared to have taken no damage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delliejonut Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 I just easily recreated it and have the save file uploaded to my dropbox. Let me know if you can't recreate, I'll share you the file. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I just PM'ed you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Given that, as I read it, Ian's test had the drivers "Banzai" into streams of lead poisoning afoot, and dellie's file has them dying at the spade handles of Ma deuce and her little brother, perhaps it's the crew dying while operating a vehicle that is causing the distant destruction. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delliejonut Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 Given that, as I read it, Ian's test had the drivers "Banzai" into streams of lead poisoning afoot, and dellie's file has them dying at the spade handles of Ma deuce and her little brother, perhaps it's the crew dying while operating a vehicle that is causing the distant destruction. That's my assumption. Another test could be switching drivers to different trucks, and seeing if the original trucks still bite the dust. I'll try that now and report my results. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delliejonut Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 It appears that if you try to mount a driver into a truck that isn't his, he'll just hop in the back like normal infantry. Drivers can only drive their own trucks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 It appears that if you try to mount a driver into a truck that isn't his, he'll just hop in the back like normal infantry. Drivers can only drive their own trucks. Oh, that applies to drivers too? Oh well... I thought and hadn't ever bothered to test, that drivers from the same platoon could get into any of the trucks in their platoon and drive them... I don't think it was always this way, and I get that restrictions were applied to stop people dismounting the driver, and having a generic grunt of a larger unit do the driving, and can even see where the logic is coming from even if it's not quite what you might expect (any mook can drive a jeep)... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) Reported. I mean the remote destruction of trucks was reported. Edited March 21, 2015 by IanL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delliejonut Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 Yay I just might have saved everyone that reads this thread two wasted turns 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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