Rayak47 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Time to find where I filed away CMSF NATO! Anyone have a good map representing the Kurdish controlled areas? The shipments will include 8,000 G36 assault rifles and the same number of G3 rifles, as well as ammunition; 200 Panzerfaust 3 bazookas and 30 long-range MILAN anti-tank systems; and five heavily armored Dingo infantry vehicles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combatintman Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I'd start here: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27838034 Some other stuff here: http://www.understandingwar.org/taxonomy/term/188 Then go to Google Earth for detail once you've settled on an area. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusto Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I heard merkels speech today. Germany will only deliver weapons to one of the iraqi kurdish factions in Syria and Iraq, namely the peshmerga. Pkk and pyd are not going to get german weapons. Also check out wikimapia, you might find some accurate info on the frontlines there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 "Pkk and pyd are not going to get german weapons." I imagine they will percolate around... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saferight Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 "Pkk and pyd are not going to get german weapons." I imagine they will percolate around... Which will surely piss off the Turks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusto Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 This issue and the possibility that the Peshmerga may be using the german weapons against the iraqi government after their victory against ISIS are, according to Merkel, both less of a threat to Germany than ISIS taking over Iraq/Syria permanently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I am certain that your assessment is correct. Nevertheless, one can confidently predict that those weapons will "get around". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 The ISIS mess has a chance of strengthening the bond between the Kurds and the central government (especially with Maliki gone). What's that Benjamin Franklin quote? "We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately." An autonomous Kurdistan sharing a long border with an ISIS-dominated Iraq doesn't sound particularly appealing. ISIS has already staged several raids into Iran! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusto Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 . What's that Benjamin Franklin quote? "We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately." "United we stand, divided we fall" - Aesop The ISIS mess has a chance of strengthening the bond between the Kurds and the central government (especially with Maliki gone). An autonomous Kurdistan sharing a long border with an ISIS-dominated Iraq doesn't sound particularly appealing. ISIS has already staged several raids into Iran! At the moment ISIS, as a common threat the iraqi government and the autonomous krudish regions share, certainly does strengthen the bond between the two, but what once the ISIS threat has been dealt with? Wont the Kurds still feel the need for having their own state? I think that after ISIS is defeated, the Kurds, having gained years of combat experience and lots valueable high-end weaponary, might be even more motivated than they were already before the war to grasp at their long wanted independence, especially given the weak iraqi central government. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 As a different POV, I think ISIS could be the best thing that's happened to us as all the ME groups will end up fighting each other and no time to worry about the west. Note how the ME countries are anxious to involved the west again in "boots on the ground" so that they can continue (in private) to assail us as "The Great Satan" etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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