Seedorf81 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 This exceptional site: http://www.strijdbewijs.nl with a lot of ww2 information has the best, and most detailed, report (and pictures and maps)on the battle at Villers-Bocage, I have ever seen. To get to Normandy-battles scroll down 1st page until red and blue textlines. Other interesting subject: D-Day, Market Garden, Hurtgenwald en much, much, more. Really, take a look, people. Though it is a Dutch site, clicking on the Union Jack shows English version. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger73 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 This exceptional site: http://www.strijdbewijs.nl with a lot of ww2 information has the best, and most detailed, report (and pictures and maps)on the battle at Villers-Bocage, I have ever seen. To get to Normandy-battles scroll down 1st page until red and blue textlines. Other interesting subject: D-Day, Market Garden, Hurtgenwald en much, much, more. Really, take a look, people. Though it is a Dutch site, clicking on the Union Jack shows English version. Thank you for posting this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseltaylor Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Great site. I was impressed with the PSP chairs. And just for fun: During World War II, the United States manufactured a quantity of landing mats capable of building a roadway around the world’s equator. Some 2 million tons of landing mat totaling $200 million accounted for enough steel to build 650 10,000-ton cargo ships. Calumet Industries apparently still has wartime stock of PSP! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM1fan Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 This was a CMBO scenario, and I tried it multiple times from the German side. I never achieved anything approaching Wittman's kill count, as Wittman's (my) Tiger always got swept away by the flood of arriving Brit tanks. What annoyed me most about the scenario was that some of the arriving Brit reinforcements seemed to materialize in positions they could not have reached without passing through terrain which was always in view of German forces. It felt like Star Trek's Scottie had beamed them down to their initial positions. I posted a few complaints about this, but nobody took me seriously. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childress Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 wrong thread... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Yes definitely wrong scenario - CM1Fan we're discussing a CMx2 CMBN scenario about Wittmans death. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altipueri Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Great site. Surprisingly short distances for some of the shots, and surprisingly many misses from what you may think would be a certain hit. Playing a game at home with a beer in the hand isn't quite the same as being there I guess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xellos Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 You can also try this Russian site: http://vn-parabellum.com/battles/villers-bocage.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseltaylor Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Nice maps and pictures. Soon I will workout a translation! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Seedorf81, Amazing find! Grog juiciness beyond words! Thank goodness the site has a translation to English feature. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseltaylor Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 OK JK which is the translation button!? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 OK JK which is the translation button!? He is, I think, referring to Seedorf81's link and you, I suspect, are trying to find a translation for xellos' link - which doesn't seem to have a translation option 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seedorf81 Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 Seedorf81, Amazing find! Grog juiciness beyond words! Thank goodness the site has a translation to English feature. Regards, John Kettler Yeah, and more amazing is the fact that it's just one guy who provides us with all this, sometime very rare, information! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xellos Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 He is, I think, referring to Seedorf81's link and you, I suspect, are trying to find a translation for xellos' link - which doesn't seem to have a translation option To do that,You can try Google's translate Tool. These web sites are also very useful: About 101's Tigers photos(which came from the same person who wrote the VB battles): http://www.retrospicere.narod.ru/2-liberation1944-45/liberation1944-45_001-01.htm About VB battle itself: http://www.tiif.de/thread.php?threadid=496&sid=aa01afffad655edfb00f55d702e18a89 About Wittmann's tiger 212 in detail: http://www.network54.com/Forum/47207/thread/1160406956/Wittmann%27s+Tiger+212%27s+First+Discoverer+is---- The auther of the VB battles came from Russia,he had taken part in countless discussions about VB on many web sites during the last few years(on missing-lynx,Tiger Im Focus, tank's xxx etc.).To me,his information(with a lot of photos evidence as well) is very very useful. I rememberd there was a scenario called 44_06_13_Hill_213.cmg which had been created for CMAK by Desertfox(?),it's map and OOB are the most accurate ones I 've ever seen. I wish someone would use CMBN to recreate VB battles with lots of details one day:) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 dieseltaylor, If you mean the Dutch site, then you want the British flag just below the cool thumbnails of the topics covered. The translation's generally good, but there are confusing rough patches in places. Or, you could just go here, Unfortunately, this covers only Normandy, not all the grog goodies on the Dutch language side of the house. Hope he keeps translating! http://www.strijdbewijs.nl/normandie1/home.htm The first link xellos so kindly provided shows pics of Tiger 1s of sPzAbt 101 peculiar to certain commanders. Wish the note weren't in frame! The info looks wonderful, but my Russian's minuscule--if that! The other two may force many of us to go back to grog school. Road gradient and track gouge analysis, Zimmerit chip analyses, ding analyses, camo pattern variances and crew member IDs, and meticulous analysis of everything else. This stuff makes real world BDA (Battle Damage Assessment) seem trivial. Bravo, xellos! Anyone wanting the skinny on Zimmerit should repair to the Zimmerit Wiki! Armed with the recipe, you can make your own. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmerit Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xellos Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 dieseltaylor, If you mean the Dutch site, then you want the British flag just below the cool thumbnails of the topics covered. The translation's generally good, but there are confusing rough patches in places. Or, you could just go here, Unfortunately, this covers only Normandy, not all the grog goodies on the Dutch language side of the house. Hope he keeps translating! http://www.strijdbewijs.nl/normandie1/home.htm The first link xellos so kindly provided shows pics of Tiger 1s of sPzAbt 101 peculiar to certain commanders. Wish the note weren't in frame! The info looks wonderful, but my Russian's minuscule--if that! Regards, John Kettler I remembered when I first found this site ,I just used Google Translate Tool to translate them into English. You can try it ,that will be helpful a lot. The site includes all the 101's tigers in detail,even the battle lost during VB and after that battle,all the tank commander's name ,monthly tank deliverd data and more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM1fan Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 wrong thread... Yes definitely wrong scenario - CM1Fan we're discussing a CMx2 CMBN scenario about Wittmans death. Gee, I didn't know that mentioning earlier experience with a CMBO scenario involving the identical situation was out of bounds. Please tell me the rules for distinguishing unacceptable posts from acceptable ones. I'd hate to make this mistake again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altipueri Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Even hinting you like CMx1 and its scenario generator. Having CM1 in your name might draw flak too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childress Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I don't believe the battle of VB can be satisfactorily recreated in a CM format. First of all, it can't simulate Wittmann's amazing luck. There were other events that can't be reproduced, for example Wittmann's tank pushing a Stuart out of the way during a key moment in the battle. Or, when his Tiger was disabled by a 6lb gun and he and his crew were able to jump into another vehicle- a current impossibility in CM.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUCASWILLEN05 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 You can however dismount the British tank crews which, if I remmber you could not do in the original CBO. We can also find other ways to hobble the British in the village, Having said that the later armoured engagement outside the town might well be a better game. There might be possibilities around combining the two in a campaign game played from the German perspective and there could also be possibilities of an Operation Perch campaign played from the British side and assuning that the 7th Armoured Division had not been caught by surprise in Villers Bocage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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