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Since I released my set of new force-specific backgrounds for CMBN I´ve begun compiling a similar set for CMFI (Actually, I haven´t begun this without some hesitation, as I really like the current force-specific backgrounds in CMFI. Unfortunately there aren´t that many of them, so they become a bit old after a while).

I´ve found plenty of good pictures of especially fallschirmjäger and commonwealth forces on various photo sites (so they will be perfect for the release of CMFI Gustav Line).

But I am a bit short on good shots of US forces - and a very short on photos of the italian forces.

It seems that every photo of italian forces in action is either of exceptionally poor quality, from another country than Italy - or both. So does anyone here know of a site, where I can find pics of italian troops and equipment in action (most I find are parade style stuff)?

Also, if you´re aware of any particular pics that simply must be part of the force-specific backgrounds, drop me a line here - or in a PM.

Below is a couple of examples:

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Cheers,

Umlaut

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Thanks.

It would be great if you have pics of italian or US troops - or just links to sites that have them.

When finished, the resolution of the pics are 1024x768 px. But that is including the borders, backgrounds etc, so it is a bit hard to give a specific size for the pics I need. Of course, the larger resolution, the better.

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Those are re enactors.

A pity, as those were pics of a rather good quality. But I kinda suspected something like that, as the troops seemed unusally well fed - for the 1940´s Italy.

Thanks to Albe Pavo and Quintus Sertorius for the links. Unfortunately, they don´t hold much useful material: Most of the pics are either of pretty poor quality, not from Italy, parade stuff - or some combination the previous three.

Many of pics on comandosupremo.com are only available to members, and I don´t want to join a site just to browse for pics. But thanks nevertheless.

I suspect that either there are no good action photos from Italy easily available on the net - or you have to search some database that is in italian (which I neither speak nor write :( )

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I know you say you have plenty, buuuuuut, have you seen this

Well, yes: I already have a lot of these pics (form the Imperial War Museum´s database, I think), but there are certainly also a lot I haven´t seen. Thanks a lot.

Looks like it is going to be a set of force-specific backgrounds dominated by kiwis and fallshirmjäger (they must have had the largest PR budgets of the war).

Or could you come up with a similar site for the italian forces? ;)

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umlaut,

Do you have these?

http://worldwartwozone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/19061-italian-forces/

http://88whitewolf88.deviantart.com/art/ITALIAN-WW2-SOLDIER-with-SMG-II-330506699

If you can take stills from video...In any case, watch this.

http://www.military.com/video/operations-and-strategy/second-world-war/ww2-italian-campaign-in-color/1454654478001/

This has many images I've never seen before--and cool music!

German invasion of Italy. Tons of great stuff!

Again, may not be useful if you can't take stills from video.

Regards,

John Kettler

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Thanks for the links, JK.

Unfortunately, I can´t use most of the pics: Either they are not from Italy, they are posed/parades or of very poor quality - or a combination of the three.

Stills taken from films on YouTube will be of far too poor quality.

For some reason it seems to be very hard finding good pictures of italian troops in action in Italy.

Try comparing with the quality of the kiwi pics that JonS posted links to earlier. A world of diffenence - in both quantity and quality.

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umlaut,

Italian military museums Quite a list, but no IWM equivalent.

http://www.italiankits.it/museums.html

This lists the Italian Army Archives, Ufficio Storico Stato Maggiore Esercito, but you'll need to dig for contact info yourself.

http://www.gadling.com/2010/09/16/military-museums-in-rome/

Yahoo Italian military history of WW II group which would seem just the ticket, but you have to join to see the pics.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/italianisti/

This is far more difficult than I imagined it would be. Am baffled Google won't give me so much as one title for the official Italian history of WW II, since I've seen some volumes offered for sale in book catalogs.

Regards,

John Kettler

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/italianisti/

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umlaut,

I think the third pic from the bottom's what you're looking for, but the image quality's awful. To me, these guys don't look German.

http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?104031-WW2-Photos/page29

Post 286, 6th pic in the same thread has a great shot of a Tiger 1 in either Tunisia, Sicily or Italy. It overlooks an apparent olive grove.

http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?104031-WW2-Photos/page42

Post 412, Pic 2 Shot of FJ inside Italian house

Post 424, Pic 3 StuGs on the march (Yes, still trying to find you some Italians!)

I went through the whole set of photos and found not one usable pic of an Italian soldier in Italy. Not one! There are a considerable numbers of Germans, especially AFVs, a few pics of the Americans and British, including a British sniper, even an Indian armored car group and a Brazilian P-47, but no Italians. Unbelievable! Strongly suggest you move heaven and earth to contact the Ufficio Storico Stato Maggiore Esercito, as above.

Regards,

John Kettler

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umlaut,

Do you know it's easier to get multiple crisp, clear pics of captured R35s being used by the Germans in Croatia than it is to find one usable pic of the Italians in action in Italy? Pity there aren't stills from some of those wartime films!

U.S. infantry after assault crossing the Po

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA-MTO-Cassino/img/USA-MTO-Cassino-p496.jpg

American infantry enter Vicenza

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA-MTO-Cassino/img/USA-MTO-Cassino-p506.jpg

91st Reconnaissance moves through Verona Station

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA-MTO-Cassino/img/USA-MTO-Cassino-p502.jpg

Artillery battery in action

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA-MTO-Cassino/img/USA-MTO-Cassino-p328.jpg

PixPast Has section Photos From Italy (some shot in Russia) 1939-1945 (log in required)

http://www.pixpast.com/viewforum.php?f=39&sid=a42394a93b04413ea7933107357fe0c8

AFV section

http://www.pixpast.com/viewforum.php?f=86&sid=a42394a93b04413ea7933107357fe0c8

African-American mortar crew in action, Italy

http://www.ww2incolor.com/d/143022-4/african-americans-wwii-035

American forward observation post, Italy

http://www.custermen.com/AtTheFront/PhotoMenu.htm

Regards,

John Kettler

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Thanks, Albe Pavo. But again - as you probably know:

Most are low quality, posed, not from Italy - or all of the above.

Seems like I will have to either lower the bar regarding geography and quality - or simply do more or less without pics of italian troops in Italy. :(

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Albe Pavo,

Is there any way you can check with the previously mentioned official Italian military archive to see what might be available? I find it incredible so vanishingly little imagery, of any sort for this topic, is to be had online. By contrast, I can readily find a bunch of pictures of Italians in Ethiopia and in the Western Desert. In the book ROMMEL'S WAR, by Cornish (?), there are even pics of Italian crewed 88s firing.

Regards,

John Kettler

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