Vanir Ausf B Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 If a squad or team is out of contact with its immediate superior (usually a platoon HQ) then its company or battalion HQ may provide voice and close visual contact, but not radio or distant-visual contact. This simulates that a higher HQ can't babysit a large number of units more than one level lower in the organization, and it means that higher HQs can't be used in a gamey way to make platoon HQs unnecessary, but they can step in and provide command-and-control in a limited radius in emergency situations. -- CMBN manual, pg 97 In this game my 4th plt. HQ was wiped out (it was just one guy to begin with). So I sent my C company HQ to the front line to take over. At first it was working fine. All the 4th plt units within voice or close visual range were showing themselves in C2 in the UI. But then at some point it just... stopped. I'm not sure exactly when it happened, but I noticed that none of the 4th plt units were in C2 anymore, despite being in close proximity to their company HQ. From that point on they never would establish C2 with the company HQ again, even when in the same action spot. None of them are suppressed. The company commander is alive and well. The forward observer team directly under the company HQ is still in C2 when near it. Am I misunderstanding the game mechanics in some way or is this a bug? (images deleted) Save game: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/x2uq74pwovv6xxu/uwyFPblFdq 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicky Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I quite can't read if the troops are rattled which if they are might have a bearing on their ability to efficiently take orders. PS Try using jpg compression rather than png for screenshots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted March 10, 2013 Author Share Posted March 10, 2013 Better? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicky Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 That's clearer and ruins my theory 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seedorf81 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Maybe the Co is an incompetent A-hole and 4th platoon decided to ignore him? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisu Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 But the 3rd squad seems to be in C2 with Battalion HQ (green dot), even though it is out of C2 with the Company HQ. Was the Bat HQ in the proximity as well? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted March 10, 2013 Author Share Posted March 10, 2013 Battalion HQ is off-map. That green dot actually means 3rd squad's company HQ is in C2 with battalion, not 3rd squad itself. I should say that all of the squads/teams in those pics are 4th platoon. None are in C2 with C company HQ or with any other HQ. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 So has anyone looked at this? I don't know how "significant" it is, but I don't see how it isn't a bug of some sort. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 What is the status of the first squad? (screenshot would be best) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 1st squad -- which is further away than the others -- is Pinned and rattled. Why is that significant? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steiner14 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 See p.95: Intellectual HQs can tell morale boosting stories to their subordinates. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I have a theory... I'll grab your savegame and see if it's correct. Just verify that you played/created this savegame w/v2.01. Ken 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 Yeah it was played in 2.01 from the beginning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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