Fionn Posted October 9, 1999 Share Posted October 9, 1999 Check out http://combathq.thegamers.net/names.htm to ensure the names you proposed made it in... After a couple of days I'll send this in to Charles and then the list of names won't be added to any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risc Posted October 9, 1999 Share Posted October 9, 1999 Oh no...Fionn you somehow lost my name... Peter Fisla - Germany PS: I sent my name in long time ago..so I guess somehow it got lost... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted October 9, 1999 Author Share Posted October 9, 1999 Ok, yours must have been one of the names which was on that zipdisk I lost... I asked people who had sent it in previously to email me again .. Guess u missed that email.. Anyways, it's no problem I'll add Fisla in to the version i send to Charles. THIS is exactly why I am posting the names publicly. I want everyone to check and be sure their name is entered and entered properly. Fisla will be in. Cheers, ------------------ ___________ Fionn Kelly Manager of Historical Research, The Gamers Net - Gaming for Gamers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim crowley Posted October 9, 1999 Share Posted October 9, 1999 Fionn, Mine seems to have got lost as well, Cheers Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattias Posted October 9, 1999 Share Posted October 9, 1999 Fionn Hitler and Himmler Please, please, please get rid of them. They have no place here, not even as a joke. And though there was others bearing these name, the names themselves are nevertheless to tainted by their more infamous representatives. And... Herr Oblt. Schweinhund? Would be like having Capt. Bastard and Sgt. ****head fighting for the allied side. Please, please, please.. again.. Otherwise all fine to me, of course my Polish and French are not what they should be M. [This message has been edited by Mattias (edited 10-09-99).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted October 9, 1999 Share Posted October 9, 1999 Just one change to the polish names: "Fedorcsak" would really be written "Fedorczak" in polish. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted October 9, 1999 Author Share Posted October 9, 1999 As I stated in an email Mattias Hitler and Himmler were common names in their respective regions of birth and would have been present throughout the German army. Merely because people with those last names were in the leadership of the Third Reich is no reason to discriminate against those names. I didn't discriminate against names from other countries which were associated with massacres and I didn't do so for the German names either. Of course, Charles has the final say and he may choose to exclude Hitler and Himmler but I won't be party to this ploughing under of common names although I will, of course, respect whatever Charles' opinion is. Schweinhund is my own addition ... I was going to highlight it when sending to Charles (guess I won't have to now). It seems to me that it'll raise a wry chuckle when you see it as the name of a German leader without harming the rule that all names must be germanic. I put it in for a little fun and because I happen to know that the name Schweinhund was present as a last name in the Third Reich. Obviously Charles may choose to remove that one but personally I think it's chuckle value is worth allowing it to remain. FWIW there are people in England whose last name is Bastard, there is also at least one person with a surname of TIT, in France there was a woman, at the end of the war, whose last name WAS Schweinhund (so Schweinhund is a REAL last name of a German who was alive during the war)... Also, in France there was a woman whose last name was "Couchon" which is the French for PIG.. So, you'd be surprised at the wide variety of real last names which seem like no-one would keep and Schweinhund is actually a real last name of a woman in Alsace-Lorraine (and hence her husband). ------------------ ___________ Fionn Kelly Manager of Historical Research, The Gamers Net - Gaming for Gamers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted October 9, 1999 Author Share Posted October 9, 1999 BTW can people email me the spelling corrections and new names. It's much easier for me to keep track of that way. Email is fionnk@thegamers.net ------------------ ___________ Fionn Kelly Manager of Historical Research, The Gamers Net - Gaming for Gamers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGTRock Posted October 9, 1999 Share Posted October 9, 1999 Cool! Thanks Fionn! ------------------ Sgt. Rock Says " War is Hell, but games are fun " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingtiger Posted October 9, 1999 Share Posted October 9, 1999 Fionn, You can't put me in the German army, as far as I know the not a single Armenian fought for Germany during WWII. Thanks for doing it though. It really does look out of place. Thanks, Richard Kalajian (Armenian, Polish & Jewish) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertFox Posted October 9, 1999 Share Posted October 9, 1999 Fion(n), There is no Wittman in Germany, but I know one in Ireland (G) and if you want to keep your joke in, the correct spelling is Schweinehund (G) DesertFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerShark Posted October 9, 1999 Share Posted October 9, 1999 Me, as a german leader, how nice Personally i think "Schwein(e)hund" is great. As Fionn said it will be funny to see such name in this game (whether or not he/she existed). I would say...let it in. As for Schwein(e)hund. If Desertfox is from Germay, i'll shut up now. But i always thought that Schweinhund was just bad language. Schweinehund however, is actually a real existing animal. So when yer calling names it's Schweinhund, and if yer a tree-hugging-hippie it's Schweinehund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetch Posted October 9, 1999 Share Posted October 9, 1999 Heya, One of mine is missing an "s" in all three places: US Canadian French it should be "Rousselle" Everything else looks good! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted October 9, 1999 Author Share Posted October 9, 1999 Hi everyone, I'd really appreciate if everyone with a correction could email me with it since that way I am 100% certain it'll go in since I have a special folder set up which I'll go through when making the final list. If it ONLY appears here I can't give any guarantee it'll be fixed. Well, it's up to Charles if Schweinehund goes in.. One MAJOR reason for posting the list is simply to ensure all spellings are correct. Missing an S or putting an S in for a Z in a polish name is all too easy so I want the people to check and email me with the corrections. Please though, if you have a correction or suggestion (or a new name to add) just email me personally at fionnk@thegamers.net to be sure it will be entered ok? And Desert is totally right about Wittman . I figured that there was room for two alternative spellings in the German OOBs .. Ever since I heard "von Kelly" wouldn't make it I added Wittman *chuckle*. Like I said, I don't think the names have to be a totally serious, po-faced affair. A little fun is allowed and so I approached eligibility with that in mind. Hence Schweinehund and Wittman both got in And, as I've said before, Charles has final say... Richard, umm I probably put ur name in by mistake.. I'll fix it in the list I send to Charles. With close to 600 names mistakes are bound to happen and it is to catch those that I posted the list.. So, could everyone who spots an error please just drop me an email and I'll make sure they're fixed. ------------------ ___________ Fionn Kelly Manager of Historical Research, The Gamers Net - Gaming for Gamers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertFox Posted October 9, 1999 Share Posted October 9, 1999 Hey guys (Hallo Leute) To clarify this: (Um das hier richtigzustellen) 1.) I am from Germany (Ich bin aus Deutschland) 2.) There is no animal known which is called Schwein(e)hund, especially not in Germany (Es ist kein Tier namens Schwein(e)hund bekannt, insbesondere nicht in Deutschland) (G) 3.) Schweinehund is a swearword, but as Fionn stated, it´s allowed and intended to have fun with this game (Schweinehund ist ein Schimpfwort, aber wie Fionn sagte, es ist erlaubt und beabsichtigt mit diesem Spiel Spaß zu haben) Ich hoffe das reicht euch als Erklärung (I hope you are satisfied with this explanations) Have a nuke free day (Einen atomwaffenfreien Tag wünsche ich) DesertFox (Wüstenfuchs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Los Posted October 10, 1999 Share Posted October 10, 1999 Oh no I forgot to recommend Major Craven Moorehead. Los Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingtiger Posted October 10, 1999 Share Posted October 10, 1999 What about "Major Major" Richard Kalajian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest L Tankersley Posted October 10, 1999 Share Posted October 10, 1999 Or British Major (I think) Pine-Coffin, which sounds like a sick joke. But apparently there was an officer with that name that took part in the operation to take Pegasus Bridge. Leland J. Tankersley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixman Posted October 10, 1999 Share Posted October 10, 1999 Just want to make a comment -- great job on the names Fionn. I actually got a little lump in my throat just seeing my uncle's name, Mastin, on the list. I can't imagine the effect it will have when I see him in action in CM. BTS, thanks for making the names a reality. ------------------ Fact is the enemy of truth. - Don Quixote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Time Software Posted October 10, 1999 Share Posted October 10, 1999 Just to pipe in here... There will be NO "funny" names in the game. There will also be no recognizable historical figures either. Last thing we want is for a tank to be commanded by Unt. Goebbles or Sgt. Patton. This has nothing to do with the historical role of the figure, but rather that the names are not supposed to conjure up images of people outside of the game. That would detract from the atmosphere. If there is a particular historical figure someone wants for a scenario, that can be given to the unit in the game. Unfortunately, not every name on Fionn's list will get in the game, even if it passes the above tests. There are only so many names the system can handle. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted October 10, 1999 Share Posted October 10, 1999 And here I was hoping for Captain Blackadder, Private Baldrick, Lieutenant George, Captain Darling and General Melchett! Marko; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Time Software Posted October 10, 1999 Share Posted October 10, 1999 Since you didn't list PFC Percy none of your list is going in Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetch Posted October 10, 1999 Share Posted October 10, 1999 He also left out Nursie, Lord Flashheart and "Bob". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ssnake Posted October 11, 1999 Share Posted October 11, 1999 No funny names ? No Cpt. Over, and his buddies Roger, and "give us a new vector, Victor" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeydz Posted October 11, 1999 Share Posted October 11, 1999 BTS, how many names (aprox) do you guys envision that it will support? I can't imagine that all the names (removing the "funny" ones) would take up all that much memory, but then again, last time I progromed was LOGO on an APPLE II in school (a long time ago...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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