RAYMAN Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Hi, I am just wondering if there will be a complete edition of CM:SF in the future? I ask if because the whole set is $35 + $50 which is kind of pricey for a 2 year old game? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Springelkamp Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Combat Mission is for the long term. It has a steady flow on buyers for years to come. And it is a niche market, lower prices will not suddenly attract large numbers of buyers. So I guess the price will be going down only slowly. If you insist to be cheap, you can save a bit on the base game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Captain Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Plus, I know it's not the answer you want to hear but, try to find any other games with so much longevity, so many hours of gameplay, supplemented by the hundreds and hundreds of hours additionally created by the community. It's well worth the money spent and even then calculates out to better value for the dollar than anything else out there. That is if you are a true wargamer and really do enjoy the games. If you do, there is nothing better or more valuable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger33 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Paradox Interactive makes grand strategy games (Europa Universalis, Hearts of Iron, Victoria) that are just as niche as anything available here, but drops the price in half within 6 months, then puts them on sale for less than $10 on a semi-regular basis. Not to mention that the starting price for their games is usually $40. The hardcore fans buy in at release for the higher price, then curious and patient fans get the game at the reduced price, finally, they pick up impulse buyers with the insanely low prices during short term sales. They seem to be doing quite well with that model. I for one would love to play CM:A (I already have the full CMSF set), but not for $35. Put that gem on sale for $20 or less and I wouldn't be able to resist. I'm also very tempted by the Strategic Command games, but, again, not for the current asking price. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 "are just as niche as anything available here..." I think you'll find the players of CM games to be much weirder... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger33 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Oh believe me, spend enough time on the Victoria and Europa Universalis boards and you will find that those guys have just as much of an obsession with history as anyone here. Especially when you get into discussions on the merits of some obscure revolution in 1500's southeast Asia, and whether it should be implemented into the game 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Not talking about history so much as the heated discussion over some obscure aspect of a weapons system that gets us all hot and sweaty here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptcurt Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I'll sell you all of mine for 40 bucks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambler Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Paradox Interactive makes grand strategy games (Europa Universalis, Hearts of Iron, Victoria) that are just as niche as anything available here, but drops the price in half within 6 months, then puts them on sale for less than $10 on a semi-regular basis. Not to mention that the starting price for their games is usually $40. The hardcore fans buy in at release for the higher price, then curious and patient fans get the game at the reduced price, finally, they pick up impulse buyers with the insanely low prices during short term sales. They seem to be doing quite well with that model. Yeah, even Eagle Dynamics puts their sims on sale periodically. I bought DCS A-10C during one of their two weeks sales. I was on the fence at $60 wondering if it would be something I would enjoy, but at $40 I couldn't refuse. I think it's interesting BFC is still selling TOW for nearly full price when you can get it on Steam for 10 bucks... However, I like BFCs bundle deals. In fact, I'll probably hold off on the CMBN modules until they're done to see if there will be a deal when buying them all together. I still have the majority of CMSF and CMBN to play through, so that should keep me busy until then. I think that money will instead go towards the A-10C expansions coming out soon (Combined Arms and Nevada). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 DCS A-10 for $40! I wish I had known. (I recall it was several hundred dollars - or is that a different version?) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambler Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 afaik A-10C has always been around 60 bucks. I haven't seen it any higher anyway. Maybe you're thinking of Steel Beasts Pro PE? That one's over a $100. Anyway, A-10C is available for $40 right now over at their website . Money WELL spent. Can't recommend it enough. It's difficult, but there are training missions that ship with the game, a bunch of vid tuts on youtube and a lot of supplemental guides available at their forums that are invaluable when learning. The manual that comes with it is also very good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I for one would love to play CM:A (I already have the full CMSF set), but not for $35. Put that gem on sale for $20 or less and I wouldn't be able to resist. I'm also very tempted by the Strategic Command games, but, again, not for the current asking price. CMA is worth $50, especially if you add the cool campaign(s) that have been released by Fredrocker. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Re A10 - so one doesn't need the manual they sell separately? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambler Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Nope, the pdf manual will install into its own folder when you install the game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger33 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Watch the sales on Steam, the DCS games pop up every month or two. A-10 has gone for as low as $20. I have the manuals for both on my Kindle and read them between classes. I hope to one day actually engage and destroy a target Any of you guys play Steel Beasts Pro PE? It looks sick but my brain just won't let me spend that kind of money on one thing, and doesn't even have a demo to try it out first. I already have ArmA 2, which is more of a sim-lite in comparison, but at least gives you a taste of everything on the battlefield. ArmA 3 is out this year as well and promises to fix the various problems that the series has carried over from the original Operation Flashpoint. Also, railguns. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 How do get them on the Kindle? (They don't sell em that way, do that?) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Marshal Blücher Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 How do get them on the Kindle? (They don't sell em that way, do that?) There's some way to send pdf files to your Kindle. I haven't bothered to try yet but will need to do so soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandokan Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 How do get them on the Kindle? (They don't sell em that way, do that?) About PDF documents, for what I know, you have first to download on your pc, then transfer trough the USB to your Kindle. Anyway, I don't think they sell that kind of manuals on Amazon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptcurt Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I 've got CMSF and all addons on disk and looking to to sell for best offer. CMSF has its manual and the others were never opened. CMSF would not play right on my pc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger33 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 You can get the PDF of the manual from the DCS website for free. PDF's can be a royal pain to read on a Kindle, so use Calibre to convert them into the standard MOBI format (it's easy) and then they will work just like any other book. I think you can set up Calibre to email the file to your Kindle automatically, but I couldn't get it to work so I just use a USB cable. Just put the file in the right folder and you're done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambler Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Any of you guys play Steel Beasts Pro PE? It looks sick but my brain just won't let me spend that kind of money on one thing, and doesn't even have a demo to try it out first. I haven't played Pro PE, but I have played the original Steel Beasts. I'm sure there are some similarities between the two. It was well done and I can tell they did their homework on the functionality of the tanks they modeled. It wasn't really my thing though. I found it to be kind of boring tbh. I couldn't justify spending $125 on Pro PE due to my SB experience. If you can find a copy of the original SB, that might be a good indicator as to whether or not you want to drop the change on Pro PE. You may love it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiftZ Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 The differences between Steelbeasts Pro PE and Steelbeasts is analogous to the differences between CM:BO and CM:BN. Pro PE is like a very potent and extremely addictive drug. "Once you start down the dark path forever will it dominate your destiny". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAYMAN Posted February 15, 2012 Author Share Posted February 15, 2012 thanks for your input guys. Like you guys said, I agree CM games are worth every penny, but I was just curious as I am on a student budget which is why I asked. =) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptcurt Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I can sell them to you very cheap. Give offer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdogg Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I haven't played Pro PE, but I have played the original Steel Beasts. I'm sure there are some similarities between the two. It was well done and I can tell they did their homework on the functionality of the tanks they modeled. It wasn't really my thing though. I found it to be kind of boring tbh. I couldn't justify spending $125 on Pro PE due to my SB experience. If you can find a copy of the original SB, that might be a good indicator as to whether or not you want to drop the change on Pro PE. You may love it. Steel Beasts Pro PE rocks, best modern tank sim out there. You can even play it as a wargame with large Battalion plus size engagements. I just got the latest upgrade that has a crewable t-72m1 and played for a month straight. My only complaint is that there is no crewable M1A2 SEP, the most advanced tank that is crewable is the swedish / spanish versions of the Leopard 2 A6. I would love to have a M1A2 SEP in steel beasts just to see the worlds best tank in action. The crewable version in steel beast now is the M1A1 HA. The thing with Price is tough to get over but you will keep and play the game for over a decade, esim releases new content every year, constanly improving it. There are hundreds of senarios, great MP community, and one of the best editors i've seen in a game. Money well spent in my book. Now if they would just make a crewable M1A2. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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