Wiggum15

I dont normally use this but...LOL
Really, telling someone who bought the games and plays them that a discussion is not worth it because he is a troll who dont want positive change...
The people who actually dont want "positive change" are you and some others who deny really every issue of CMx2 and the way BFC handles them, you are happy with everything BFC puts out and puts a 55$ price tag on anyway!
Why are you here ? Just to tell everyone who wants some change that his opinion is invalid ?
Again...LOL !

People demand a reworked UI (for the next title), you tell them its not worth BFC's time and there opinion does not matter anyway because they are just negative trolls, thats why this forum has a very specific reputation amongst the non-fanboys.

Putting everyone who is not happy with everything BFC does on your Ignore list just shows how much of a (so called) "Fanboy" you and some others here are.
"Near constant whining and no valuable input", should i laugh ?
The only "valuable input" for you is if someone cheers BFC like a little cheerleader !
 
There is a technical bug report thread -> Hell no thats not a bug/issue, buy a new PC and shut up !
Someone points out a spotting issue -> Stop complaining the spotting model is to complex for you to understand, thats all !
A guy points out the lack of progress of the CMx2 Engine games -> Vote him down, and tell him how he is just constantly whining !
Someone request a new feature -> Shut up dude, BFC has "other work" to do !
 
...just pathetic !
 
Maybe iam to negative towards BFC and CMx2, but some of you alre clearly way to positive about every aspect of CMx2 and BFC as a company !
So i just try to balance things a bit...

Putting everyone who is not happy with everything BFC does on your Ignore list just shows how much of a (so called) "Fanboy" you and some others here are.
"Near constant whining and no valuable input", should i laugh ?
The only "valuable input" for you is if someone cheers BFC like a little cheerleader !
 
There is a technical bug report thread -> Hell no thats not a bug/issue, buy a new PC and shut up !
Someone points out a spotting issue -> Stop complaining the spotting model is to complex for you to understand, thats all !
A guy points out the lack of progress of the CMx2 Engine games -> Vote him down, and tell him how he is just constantly whining !
Someone request a new feature -> Shut up dude, BFC has "other work" to do !
 
...just pathetic !
 
Maybe iam to negative towards BFC and CMx2, but some of you alre clearly way to positive about every aspect of CMx2 and BFC as a company !
So i just try to balance things a bit...

I will try to reduce your post in the quote to its core...
 Here we go again, the typical attitude of this forum towards users who focus on (or point out) the issues of CMx2...
 
a ) tell them to play another game and shut up
b ) tell them they are idiots who talk nonsense
c ) bash them and/or call them names
 
...as always.

But why did they not announce new winter-condition features already ?
If they are currently working on them and dont know how they will end up they could at least write something like:
"We are currently working on..."
or
"We plan to include..."

That they say nothing about it tells me they will just port over CMFI "snow" and give it new textures. We all know BFC has other, more important work to do...

...you mean features that already were in CMx1 and suddenly disappeared in CMx2 ?

I will try to reduce your post in the quote to its core...
 Here we go again, the typical attitude of this forum towards users who focus on (or point out) the issues of CMx2...
 
a ) tell them to play another game and shut up
b ) tell them they are idiots who talk nonsense
c ) bash them and/or call them names
 
...as always.

But why did they not announce new winter-condition features already ?
If they are currently working on them and dont know how they will end up they could at least write something like:
"We are currently working on..."
or
"We plan to include..."

That they say nothing about it tells me they will just port over CMFI "snow" and give it new textures. We all know BFC has other, more important work to do...

Putting everyone who is not happy with everything BFC does on your Ignore list just shows how much of a (so called) "Fanboy" you and some others here are.
"Near constant whining and no valuable input", should i laugh ?
The only "valuable input" for you is if someone cheers BFC like a little cheerleader !
 
There is a technical bug report thread -> Hell no thats not a bug/issue, buy a new PC and shut up !
Someone points out a spotting issue -> Stop complaining the spotting model is to complex for you to understand, thats all !
A guy points out the lack of progress of the CMx2 Engine games -> Vote him down, and tell him how he is just constantly whining !
Someone request a new feature -> Shut up dude, BFC has "other work" to do !
 
...just pathetic !
 
Maybe iam to negative towards BFC and CMx2, but some of you alre clearly way to positive about every aspect of CMx2 and BFC as a company !
So i just try to balance things a bit...

Thats actually true.
Everytime i play CMx2 i think about how much better it could be if the developers had choosen another engine that wouldn't get the game stuck into a "dead end" from which there is no escape.
CM needs three things, a more flexible engine (that means new features can be included easier and there arent that many "dead ends"), a ArmA like editor and a more appealing user interface.
There are so many shortcomings and problems with the CMx2 games but its still the best 3D tactical wargame out there and really fun to play most of the time...

...you mean features that already were in CMx1 and suddenly disappeared in CMx2 ?

Yeah, Steve posting about his opinion about Russian politics and Chris cautions users from time to time...did i miss something ?
Sorry i dont want to be offensive but thats all i heard from them in the last few months...

Putting everyone who is not happy with everything BFC does on your Ignore list just shows how much of a (so called) "Fanboy" you and some others here are.
"Near constant whining and no valuable input", should i laugh ?
The only "valuable input" for you is if someone cheers BFC like a little cheerleader !
 
There is a technical bug report thread -> Hell no thats not a bug/issue, buy a new PC and shut up !
Someone points out a spotting issue -> Stop complaining the spotting model is to complex for you to understand, thats all !
A guy points out the lack of progress of the CMx2 Engine games -> Vote him down, and tell him how he is just constantly whining !
Someone request a new feature -> Shut up dude, BFC has "other work" to do !
 
...just pathetic !
 
Maybe iam to negative towards BFC and CMx2, but some of you alre clearly way to positive about every aspect of CMx2 and BFC as a company !
So i just try to balance things a bit...

Yes, stop. Your constant vendetta against JK is becoming extremely tiresome. If you think you are winning people to your side, you are not. Every snide and demeaning attack you make on JK shows us what a small, petty and vindictive man you really are. Every time JK, for all his faults, turns the other cheek or addresses your attacks with civility shows us that he has a lot more character.

From now on, I’ll be reporting posts I see where you spout your usual belittling, denigrating and snide comments against fellow members whom you deem as a lesser or disagree with. As a higher profile unpaid employee of BFC (You create content, for free, that ships with the game, making you an unpaid employee for all intents and purposes), the way you conduct yourself throws a bad light on BFC. It’s time that they are made aware of this.

...you mean features that already were in CMx1 and suddenly disappeared in CMx2 ?

...you mean features that already were in CMx1 and suddenly disappeared in CMx2 ?

Sublime and delliejonut,
 
As I've said kindly, explicitly, even pointedly to LukeFF, Wicky et al., Steve asked me quite some time ago not to start threads on certain topics, and I haven't. Those named have repeatedly and with malice aforethought made it a point to drag those very things from a certain place I mustn't name to over here, then have proceeded to hit me when they know I can't hit back. Moreover, they've done so despite my further pointing out that what they were doing was directly injurious to me, for I'm under medical instructions I'm not supposed to be stressed. They still did it. They have called me names, attributed things to me that weren't true, belittled me, called me a liar and deliberately baited me in the hope I'll slip. I did so once, on the old board. Wicky dragged out a technical mistake I made, a point I've many times admitted my error concerning. He kept hammering away at me thereafter with spurious claims, and I, angered and  swept up in righteous indignation, posted a fateful link. That got me a Moon rocket. I haven't made that same mistake twice. On this board, I got a warning for an offense not even on the books, yet the three of them flout the Forum Rules at will, but nothing ever happens. You can see the pattern for yourself in thread after thread starting with the disastrous emoticon post. Over and over again a certain Admin lets them tear me to pieces, and when I, sometimes accompanied by others, object, defend myself, call for appropriate behavior and even quote the malefactors the Forum Rules, magically a thread lock appears, with not so much as a word of reproof. Which, of course, empowers them to do it again. When it gets so bad  that other Members are quoting them the Forum Rules, pointing out stalkerish behavior, baiting and the like, who is the problem? It assuredly isn't me. And that's not just my opinion, but the published views of other Members. 
 
I will happily debate the views, the issues, the concepts, the facts and more as they apply to the games, weapon capabilities and military history. Equally, I will share my own direct experience where relevant and permitted. Nor do I make any claim of infallible memory. Indeed, I've many times said I could be wrong. This is supposed to be a civilized, family friendly place. It generally is, but we have board bullies. And as bullies do, these pick on those least able to defend themselves. On those who are different. It is rude, uncouth, low and boorish not merely to conduct forbidden ad hominem attacks, but to do so when the one being attacked is on the ground, bound hand and foot and has already been kicked in the head!  Let me be blunt: 
 
There is absolutely no excuse or justification, even if someone hates me outright, for ad hominem attacks, slander, character assassination, insults, intimidation and a laundry list of other offenses against the Forum Rules, commonly accepted social standards and simple human decency. What these malefactors are doing to me is profoundly violative and hurtful. I wish to be able to go about my lawful occasions on the Forums without being vexed, annoyed, harassed and attacked. This is my right as someone who carefully abides by the Forum Rules.
 
Canister Effectiveness
 
To claim that canister had no utility in the bocage is the same as saying six HMG-42s firing simultaneously at the same target, from spitting distance, have no effect. Anyone here care to make that argument? HMG-42 at full cyclic rate puts out 20 rds/sec. The 37 mm canister round puts out 122 in vastly less than that in an instant. If the MG in the bocage is able to shoot into that field, it stands to reason that blast after blast of the intensity I described and going at the German MG position is going to have an effect. The greater the fire density over unit time, at least to a certain point, the greater the suppression and shock effect. This is the basis of the WW II TOT, the basis of concentrated surprise fire by Pakfronts, the longstanding virtue of the ambush. Canister creates instantaneous fire superiority. Supporting my argument is this M4 Sherman Wiki excerpt. It's under "Miscellaneous."
 
"The 75 mm gun also had an effective canister round that functioned as a large shotgun. In the close fighting of the French bocage, the 2nd Armored Division tanks used Culin Hedgerow Cutters fitted to their tanks to push three tanks together through a hedgerow. The flank tanks would clear the back of the hedgerow on their side with canister rounds while the center tank would engage and suppress known or suspected enemy positions on the next hedgerow. This approach permitted surprisingly fast progress through the very tough and well-defended hedgerows in Normandy. Over 500 sets of these were fitted to US armored vehicles, and many fitted to various British tanks (where they were called "Prongs")."
 
That canister round was designated T30. Source: M4 Sherman at War, Michael Green and James D. Brown, on page 68, last paragraph, bottom right.
 
Doug Williams,
 
Then I should be okay, for I'm working with SLIM to figure out GaJ's CM Helper.
 
LukeFF and JonS,
 
Not only do you not listen, but you apparently can't read anymore, either. I have many times now asked you to leave me in peace, yet here you are again trashing me. I look forward to seeing how you talk your way out of what I just posted on canister: information that's credible, is fully in accord with demonstrated combat realities, and is multiply documented. I may well be wrong on the Stuart assault technique, but I'm right on the use and efficacy of canister in bocage warfare. 
 
Bud_B,
 
The M8 has canister, is self-evidently firing same in the pic you provided, and it is wholly appropriate it should be doing so. In case you have any doubts, Steve Zaloga, noted weapon expert and armor writer (not to mention a tremendous modeler), lists three ammo types for the M8: AP, HE and canister. Page 19 of his Greyhound Light Armored Car 1941-1991. 
 
Regards,
 
John Kettler

no i ll continue to piss them off ,legaly. I do not mind sneak peak reviews, nor did i say that i wont buy this game. all i said was: not good as it could be (realistically good,not pure imagination). we are starting to see a pattern: create 2 or 5 new vehicles ,add new formations (same weapons,maybe some minor changes) , make 100 maps out of which at least 50 are complete crap. (digression: some maps from RT are ported to BS..) call it a new game and charge 55 dollars. shadows,shaders,sounds,animations all same,its just a reskin. i know,cm is best game in this genre and beyond, but facts are facts. i cannot be bfc fanatic. one guy saying this is nothing, but 400 people saying it would definatelly change something. and i think its rightful demand. Bring more ,bring more features,do not make reskins all the time. i can live with cm's state for now ,but naturally i want better productS
 
edit: also, patches or fixes , shouldnt be seen as ' favor'. they are there because game wasnt polished enough.they know that if they make crappy buggy game and give no patches,they ll be gone.its a natural process,repairing your body

Thats actually true.
Everytime i play CMx2 i think about how much better it could be if the developers had choosen another engine that wouldn't get the game stuck into a "dead end" from which there is no escape.
CM needs three things, a more flexible engine (that means new features can be included easier and there arent that many "dead ends"), a ArmA like editor and a more appealing user interface.
There are so many shortcomings and problems with the CMx2 games but its still the best 3D tactical wargame out there and really fun to play most of the time...

Sorry but everyone sees that these screenshots are ugly, they better did not post them at all (and i think they show nothing you could not already do with the existing games/modules and some bmp editing... )

Sorry but everyone sees that these screenshots are ugly, they better did not post them at all (and i think they show nothing you could not already do with the existing games/modules and some bmp editing... )

My impression: Wiggum, you seem to have a Freudian love/hate relationship going on with Battlefront. I find it reminiscent of of that classic study in contrasts, Sonny and Michael Corleone in the Godfather. It’s no surprise the two sons aren’t exactly BFFS, but in a weird way, they sort of need each other. And they have almost nothing to learn from the wimpy middle brother, Fredo. I'm glad you're not Fredo.

...you mean features that already were in CMx1 and suddenly disappeared in CMx2 ?

Yeah, Steve posting about his opinion about Russian politics and Chris cautions users from time to time...did i miss something ?
Sorry i dont want to be offensive but thats all i heard from them in the last few months...

Again, whats the point of "Constructive feedback" if BFC seems to ignore this forum and has left many things the players complained about unfixed in nearly 8 years ?

Again, whats the point of "Constructive feedback" if BFC seems to ignore this forum and has left many things the players complained about unfixed in nearly 8 years ?

Constructive ?
Is BFC giving away the game for free ?
No, they sell it full price and i pay full price. With that i also get the right to complain.

What should i say "constructive" ?
- BFC, what about a new UI ? -> Will never ever happen to CMx2
- BFC i think you should include new terrain and graphic features for snow in the bulge game, what about that ? -> Will not happen with the current engine or is "to much work"...

Im just not one of those guys who (in absence of any official BFC employee in this forum) gives excuses for really everything thats wrong with the game (since 7+ years...)
Oh and yes i have many positive things to say about CMx2, otherwise i would not use my money to buy it.