Aurelius

I will never understand why you people insist on defending BF, as if they are incapable of defending themselves. And then you get mad when someone calls you fanboys.

No, but it makes me wanna read Skinner's Science and Human Behavior again.

It's not yours to discuss. These are the questions that the company has to answer, not some buyer/forum user.

So, basically, don't point out the flaws (does not mean that he said that the game is utter s***t) of the game or else you will the wrath of the forum. Why are you all so defensive? It's not like you are employed for BF and someone is bashing your work.

I'm not worried about survival of the CM franchise. But what worries me is this almost sectarian behavior between the "factions". Maybe as the time passes the new generation will evolve into the old breed and the circle will continue uninterrupted.

What has this forum turned into?!? Some kind of static, entrenched warfare between the Old Breed and The New Generation. People ask questions (some legitimate, some not) and then the flame war starts. It perfectly illustrates the point that time is a flat circle and that this will go on forever and ever.

Why do I get the feeling Russians will maneuver their forces to the border and call it a military exercise while hell is breaking loose in Ukraine. Oh wait, it has happened before.

Maybe they don't want to see it?

In my opinion- people don't care whether you show them numbers or coffins or corpses. They wont care unless it is connected to them or their family. I remember going to some practical courses in a police station in Novi Sad. There was a black marble plaque with names and dates of police officers killed on duty. Not one of my colleagues stopped and looked at their names. Life is cheap and no one will care whether you died in a car crash, in Iraq or Ukraine.

We went so far down that "society nurtures a criminal" road in college that some people actually argued that there is no free will (as in I want to blow up those people). It's an absurd idea to say that society nurtures criminals. Society is a contributing factor but not the source of criminal behavior, you still have to make a choice to commit a crime. As for the other part of your post, it is an interesting one. My opinion is that prisons don't have to be hotels, but that we as a society should look at ex-convicts differently, give them chance when they get out of prison to find a job. But that would require successful rehabilitation and frankly with the majority of the convicted that is a "bridge too far". As some of the inspectors I talked too have said, they are just broken (FUBAR). Also, Norway and US can't really be compared. One has the issues that the other doesn't and vice versa.

Where was Dzokhar's empathy when he committed the act? When he planed it? Those arguments you could have presented may work on classic forms of criminal behavior (although they don't explain a 70% rate of recidivism in a prison near my home town). The fact that he was willing to blow up random strangers with no motives other than political gain he hoped to achieve tells me that he cannot be a member of society.

A man commits an act of terrorism and I am the one that is callous. Yeah, put him in a prison. Rehabilitate him. Make him a better person. Such things only work in textbooks for students of law and nowhere else.

Why should taxpayers pay his upkeep?

Thank you for this. I mean it.

Many here don't know about the that deep division between our people. And many yet don't know of the anti-war and anti-Milosevic movement. I am proud to be the son of the parents that voted against Milosevic every single time. While Milosevic and his cronies terrorized former Yugoslavia, they also terrorized the many that stood up against the madness. Riot police was really eager to use tear gas, water cannons and the baton. Black Moria- thank you for your posts. I wouldn't say that we are angry and want to go to the rampage and kill every son-of-a-b***h that wronged "us", but we are frustrated by the fact that we are the "bad guys". Thats how i see majority of the responses. A whole nation-bad.

I must also add that I hold no negative emotions toward Croats, Bosnaks, Albanians- anyone involved in the conflict. We were all f***ed by our leadership. I would like to meet people from those countries and share experiences of war and post-war period.

Steve, you want to go back? Okay. First division between Serbia and Croatia is the fact that our feudal lords decided to accept Christianity from the Byzantines and their feudal lords decided they will take western Catholicism. Second one came when both of our nations were under (some would say) occupation from in our case Ottoman Empire and in their case Austria-Hungary. It influenced heavily our world views and goals. We were the first to become free and form our nation. Then came WW1 and in the aftermath we took most of the Austria-Hungary territory, including Croatia for us. First bad move by our side. Second one came when a parlaiment member from Croatian party was assassinated in Parliament. Our king decided to impose dictatorship and lost his life as a result of his choices. That led to chaos in the state and that's when the friction from Croatia started to show. They wanted to align themselves with the Third Reich, but we weren't sure if it was the right move. It resulted with declaration of war on 6th of April and bombardment which saw the destruction of our National Library (many of the medieval manuscripts and artefacts were destroyed). Our armies were utterly crushed (we had like 4 tanks in the whole army). Croatia became independent, got their chunk of territory to govern and thats when the Ustase terror started. In the same time Cetniks appeared. Both of these movements were nationalistic and ready to kill everything that moves. I must also mention Jasenovac, a concentration camp under managment of Croatia. Then came Tito and his merry band of communists. You all know how that went. After the war every nationalistic movement was suppressed. Some were outright killed, some were exiled. It worked for a while and then came the constitution from 1974. It destroyed the federation and its layer of governing. Add to that exiled people sending money to the growing nationalist movements and you got yourself states declaring independence. To say that only Milosevic made evil calls is wrong. Everyone contributed to the start of that conflict. They also needed a way to take the money away from the state budget, to make money smuggling and so on. We, the commoners, got out from that conflict half-starved and traumatised whilst our leadership was fat, smiling and with loads of money on various accounts, including the ones on Cyprus. Sorry for the long post and history lesson but it needed to be said.

It's insulting to everyone when you base your intervention on a "moral basis". Say you did it for the lolz or whatever, but please don't say you did it on the moral basis. Those stories are not mine, but of the people I call friends. I too, like Lacroix, am tired of my country and its "political elite" and I don't post here to threat some psychological trauma.

And I am old enough to remember that kids my age were killed while they were playing/fishing/bathing in the stream. I am old enough to remember what it meant when someone from your family was sent to Kosovo (not from my family, but I will never forget the look on women's faces when their husbands/sons/brothers were sent to that hellhole). You sir chose to look at one side of the story and then you shut yourself of from it. To call this a historical revisionism a-la Holocaust never happened is an insult to reason. Shame on you. The only reason I posted here is because you people still think we are modern day nazis, parading with dead children stuck on spears, raping and pillaging. People who did that are either dead or are in prison. AND EVERY SIDE OF THAT CONFLICT HAD THOSE PEOPLE, you just chose to ignore that so you can feel good about yourselves. You know, making positive difference in world, doing the moral thing.... I am sick and tired of moral people.

It's like this

Everyone has made a crude sexist joke in their life. Hopefully they got what they deserved.

And then you side with the guys that desecrate graves, blow up buses filled with civies, kill children while they are fishing. The guys that smuggle heroin, have no objection about abducting people and butchering them for organs... They enter Macedonia and kill 10 cops and wound many more (about 70 of them). You know, the good guys, guys in need of rescue. And all that while in peace enforced by glorious NATO justicars. The worst part of this story is that the NATO was used, it was not the one using.

Also it leads to a question: how many civilians can you kill before the Justice system that is NATO gets worked up?

The reality in which i live has a lot more people hurt in some way by the supposed good guys. Stories like- I was born in a car because my family had to flee in terror from the Croatian Army or the Bosnaks; we had to leave Kosovo because they attack us each day (not to mention the events from 2004. when they forced people out from their homes and destroyed churches and monasteries from 13th century); they desecrated graves of my family members again and so on. Makes you wonder who is really a good guy and if there's any. Our army did horrible things and I am ashamed for that, but they weren't the only ones rounding up civies and executing them.

They don't. Neither do "Kosovars".