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It all depends on the velocity and mass of the fragment when it hits that cast iron block. Cast iron is not particularly resistant to penetration, especially small fragments of a very dense metal that is traveling at a very high velocity after being ejected by the explosive power of a HIMARS. I remember when I used a cast iron fry pan for target practice, set on edge at 100 yards using a 30-06 1956 Czech Mauser K95. I put eight rounds of 30-06 “silver tip” hunting rounds (not even full jacketed) completely through it without knocking it over. Don’t judge by size, judge by impact energy, and cast iron isn’t very resistant to impact energy.

One thing that I think many on this Forum don’t realize is that talk is cheap, especially from “chicken hawks” as many of us here who HAVE served tend to call those who talk a tough fight, but have never been put in a position to have to back up their words with actions. The most honest answer when asked what one would do in a situation is, I’ve never been exposed to that situation so I honestly don’t know what I would, only what I would hope to do. Even a person who has been in a situation never knows, but can only hope to handle it as before. This is because one might be a hero when dry, warm, well-fed, and have dry feet, but be a coward when wet, cold, hungry, and be standing in mud up to their ankles.
we all think we can be a Rambo or a Florence Nightingale, but never know if we can until AFTER the situation is over! And the whole subject is WAY OFF TOPIC in this thread.

Much of the value of the data from polls is directly related to the exact what and how the questions are written/asked. They can be manipulated in many different ways to elicit the answers the pollsters want for their points.

It all depends on the velocity and mass of the fragment when it hits that cast iron block. Cast iron is not particularly resistant to penetration, especially small fragments of a very dense metal that is traveling at a very high velocity after being ejected by the explosive power of a HIMARS. I remember when I used a cast iron fry pan for target practice, set on edge at 100 yards using a 30-06 1956 Czech Mauser K95. I put eight rounds of 30-06 “silver tip” hunting rounds (not even full jacketed) completely through it without knocking it over. Don’t judge by size, judge by impact energy, and cast iron isn’t very resistant to impact energy.

It all depends on the velocity and mass of the fragment when it hits that cast iron block. Cast iron is not particularly resistant to penetration, especially small fragments of a very dense metal that is traveling at a very high velocity after being ejected by the explosive power of a HIMARS. I remember when I used a cast iron fry pan for target practice, set on edge at 100 yards using a 30-06 1956 Czech Mauser K95. I put eight rounds of 30-06 “silver tip” hunting rounds (not even full jacketed) completely through it without knocking it over. Don’t judge by size, judge by impact energy, and cast iron isn’t very resistant to impact energy.

It all depends on the velocity and mass of the fragment when it hits that cast iron block. Cast iron is not particularly resistant to penetration, especially small fragments of a very dense metal that is traveling at a very high velocity after being ejected by the explosive power of a HIMARS. I remember when I used a cast iron fry pan for target practice, set on edge at 100 yards using a 30-06 1956 Czech Mauser K95. I put eight rounds of 30-06 “silver tip” hunting rounds (not even full jacketed) completely through it without knocking it over. Don’t judge by size, judge by impact energy, and cast iron isn’t very resistant to impact energy.

One thing that I think many on this Forum don’t realize is that talk is cheap, especially from “chicken hawks” as many of us here who HAVE served tend to call those who talk a tough fight, but have never been put in a position to have to back up their words with actions. The most honest answer when asked what one would do in a situation is, I’ve never been exposed to that situation so I honestly don’t know what I would, only what I would hope to do. Even a person who has been in a situation never knows, but can only hope to handle it as before. This is because one might be a hero when dry, warm, well-fed, and have dry feet, but be a coward when wet, cold, hungry, and be standing in mud up to their ankles.
we all think we can be a Rambo or a Florence Nightingale, but never know if we can until AFTER the situation is over! And the whole subject is WAY OFF TOPIC in this thread.

One thing that I think many on this Forum don’t realize is that talk is cheap, especially from “chicken hawks” as many of us here who HAVE served tend to call those who talk a tough fight, but have never been put in a position to have to back up their words with actions. The most honest answer when asked what one would do in a situation is, I’ve never been exposed to that situation so I honestly don’t know what I would, only what I would hope to do. Even a person who has been in a situation never knows, but can only hope to handle it as before. This is because one might be a hero when dry, warm, well-fed, and have dry feet, but be a coward when wet, cold, hungry, and be standing in mud up to their ankles.
we all think we can be a Rambo or a Florence Nightingale, but never know if we can until AFTER the situation is over! And the whole subject is WAY OFF TOPIC in this thread.

One thing that I think many on this Forum don’t realize is that talk is cheap, especially from “chicken hawks” as many of us here who HAVE served tend to call those who talk a tough fight, but have never been put in a position to have to back up their words with actions. The most honest answer when asked what one would do in a situation is, I’ve never been exposed to that situation so I honestly don’t know what I would, only what I would hope to do. Even a person who has been in a situation never knows, but can only hope to handle it as before. This is because one might be a hero when dry, warm, well-fed, and have dry feet, but be a coward when wet, cold, hungry, and be standing in mud up to their ankles.
we all think we can be a Rambo or a Florence Nightingale, but never know if we can until AFTER the situation is over! And the whole subject is WAY OFF TOPIC in this thread.

One thing that I think many on this Forum don’t realize is that talk is cheap, especially from “chicken hawks” as many of us here who HAVE served tend to call those who talk a tough fight, but have never been put in a position to have to back up their words with actions. The most honest answer when asked what one would do in a situation is, I’ve never been exposed to that situation so I honestly don’t know what I would, only what I would hope to do. Even a person who has been in a situation never knows, but can only hope to handle it as before. This is because one might be a hero when dry, warm, well-fed, and have dry feet, but be a coward when wet, cold, hungry, and be standing in mud up to their ankles.
we all think we can be a Rambo or a Florence Nightingale, but never know if we can until AFTER the situation is over! And the whole subject is WAY OFF TOPIC in this thread.

Much of the value of the data from polls is directly related to the exact what and how the questions are written/asked. They can be manipulated in many different ways to elicit the answers the pollsters want for their points.

All humans whether we want to admit it to others, or even to ourselves are tribal, and will ultimately identify and align with others of our “tribe” as defined by our shared values, morality, shared heritage, and goals.

One thing that I think many on this Forum don’t realize is that talk is cheap, especially from “chicken hawks” as many of us here who HAVE served tend to call those who talk a tough fight, but have never been put in a position to have to back up their words with actions. The most honest answer when asked what one would do in a situation is, I’ve never been exposed to that situation so I honestly don’t know what I would, only what I would hope to do. Even a person who has been in a situation never knows, but can only hope to handle it as before. This is because one might be a hero when dry, warm, well-fed, and have dry feet, but be a coward when wet, cold, hungry, and be standing in mud up to their ankles.
we all think we can be a Rambo or a Florence Nightingale, but never know if we can until AFTER the situation is over! And the whole subject is WAY OFF TOPIC in this thread.

One thing that I think many on this Forum don’t realize is that talk is cheap, especially from “chicken hawks” as many of us here who HAVE served tend to call those who talk a tough fight, but have never been put in a position to have to back up their words with actions. The most honest answer when asked what one would do in a situation is, I’ve never been exposed to that situation so I honestly don’t know what I would, only what I would hope to do. Even a person who has been in a situation never knows, but can only hope to handle it as before. This is because one might be a hero when dry, warm, well-fed, and have dry feet, but be a coward when wet, cold, hungry, and be standing in mud up to their ankles.
we all think we can be a Rambo or a Florence Nightingale, but never know if we can until AFTER the situation is over! And the whole subject is WAY OFF TOPIC in this thread.

“In the Beginning,” the Continental Army was basically created when Washington took command of the Massachusetts Militia on June 14, 1775, after the fiasco of Breed’s Hill (misnamed Bunker Hill). At that time, the Militia had enough powder and ball to fight a 3-minute fixed battle with the Regulars in Boston.
the Continental Marines were created on November 10, 1775, were modeled on the Royal Marines, and created as “Soldiers of the Sea” primarily to act as snipers in the rigging, to provide defense for landing parties, and to prevent mutiny on the ship.  The Continental Army at Boston didn’t get any additional ammunition until the Continental Marines took the fort on New Providence Island in January 1776.
During, and after the Civil War, in addition to sniping and landing party work, manned the ship guns which created the rank of Gunnery Sergeant.
After the positive publicity on the performance of Marines in WWI, and particularly their Pacific successes in WWII, the Army actively began politicking to combine the Marine Corps into Army to get a larger share to the reduced funding. At the same time, the newly spun off U.S. Air Force tried to get the U.S.Navy aircraft carrier program cancelled by claiming that their strategic bombers with the Atomic Bomb made the carriers obsolete. It almost happened, but than God it didn’t because when North Korea invaded and rolled up the U.S and South Korean Armies all the way down to Pusan due to TO&E blunders and outdated thinking by the U.S.Army brass, the only thing that prevented collapse of the Pusan Perimeter was the Navy’s ability to deliver supplies, equipment, and most importantly, the U.S. Marine Rapid Deployment Force AND the Navy and Marine Close Combat air support that they had honed to a Razor’s edge during WWII.
Even after the debacle of the Korean Conflict, the Army and Air Force continually try to cut the funding, and absorb the Marine Corps into the Army.
All four services serve uniquely different functions and missions, but the antics of the Army brass and former Army Air Corps have done nothing but create  dissension and trouble for more than a Century. 
End of rant.

“In the Beginning,” the Continental Army was basically created when Washington took command of the Massachusetts Militia on June 14, 1775, after the fiasco of Breed’s Hill (misnamed Bunker Hill). At that time, the Militia had enough powder and ball to fight a 3-minute fixed battle with the Regulars in Boston.
the Continental Marines were created on November 10, 1775, were modeled on the Royal Marines, and created as “Soldiers of the Sea” primarily to act as snipers in the rigging, to provide defense for landing parties, and to prevent mutiny on the ship.  The Continental Army at Boston didn’t get any additional ammunition until the Continental Marines took the fort on New Providence Island in January 1776.
During, and after the Civil War, in addition to sniping and landing party work, manned the ship guns which created the rank of Gunnery Sergeant.
After the positive publicity on the performance of Marines in WWI, and particularly their Pacific successes in WWII, the Army actively began politicking to combine the Marine Corps into Army to get a larger share to the reduced funding. At the same time, the newly spun off U.S. Air Force tried to get the U.S.Navy aircraft carrier program cancelled by claiming that their strategic bombers with the Atomic Bomb made the carriers obsolete. It almost happened, but than God it didn’t because when North Korea invaded and rolled up the U.S and South Korean Armies all the way down to Pusan due to TO&E blunders and outdated thinking by the U.S.Army brass, the only thing that prevented collapse of the Pusan Perimeter was the Navy’s ability to deliver supplies, equipment, and most importantly, the U.S. Marine Rapid Deployment Force AND the Navy and Marine Close Combat air support that they had honed to a Razor’s edge during WWII.
Even after the debacle of the Korean Conflict, the Army and Air Force continually try to cut the funding, and absorb the Marine Corps into the Army.
All four services serve uniquely different functions and missions, but the antics of the Army brass and former Army Air Corps have done nothing but create  dissension and trouble for more than a Century. 
End of rant.

LOL, here in the U.S. we have many towns and cities all over the country that have identical names of others in other States and even in the same state (much more rare). To compound the confusion, we have any that are also in other countries, especially in the Northeastern “New England” region and in the Midwest which have a high proportion of Northern and Eastern European immigrants. Why, in Maine, we even have one of Steve’s favorite names, Moscow.

Ah ha! I just determined the cause of all those “careless smoking incidents.” The “NO SMOKING”signs are in English, not Russian!

Question: How can you tell an extroverted Engineer from an introverted Engineer?
 
 
Answer: An extroverted Engineer stares at “your” shoes when talking to you!

Question: How can you tell an extroverted Engineer from an introverted Engineer?
 
 
Answer: An extroverted Engineer stares at “your” shoes when talking to you!

Question: How can you tell an extroverted Engineer from an introverted Engineer?
 
 
Answer: An extroverted Engineer stares at “your” shoes when talking to you!

Question: How can you tell an extroverted Engineer from an introverted Engineer?
 
 
Answer: An extroverted Engineer stares at “your” shoes when talking to you!

Question: How can you tell an extroverted Engineer from an introverted Engineer?
 
 
Answer: An extroverted Engineer stares at “your” shoes when talking to you!

Question: How can you tell an extroverted Engineer from an introverted Engineer?
 
 
Answer: An extroverted Engineer stares at “your” shoes when talking to you!

Question: How can you tell an extroverted Engineer from an introverted Engineer?
 
 
Answer: An extroverted Engineer stares at “your” shoes when talking to you!