Magpie_Oz

I understand that English is not your first language but I would recommend a quick spell check on your posts.

Rubbish. You are talking about killing someone.

How many of them wore suits of armour ? The comparison is between the Medieval Knights and modern "Joe Average"

I wasn't suggesting guns are only useful criminals I was suggesting they are useful to nobody. As for rapes well you need to come up with a bit more than "estimates" or even "reasonable conservative estimates" Perhaps you might want to toss in the numbers of women who died because they had a gun and their assailant shot them.

It isn't a mater of appealing to anything in the "the criminal" it is simple a matter of avoiding the conflict in the first place. Why would someone shoot me if I don't have a gun? If they simply wanted to kill me it would make any difference if I have a gun or not. If they point a gun at me to intimidate or rob me then I will be alive and intimidated or robbed, there is nothing I own that I value more than my life.

Always thought this thread was a product of some sicko's id, now we know who's

De-escalation

Think you need to calm it down a bit there lads. I think you will find that rifleman accuracy, regardless of level of training, takes a huge dive once you are on a two way the rifle range. It is a pretty cool head and hands, or psycho, who can stay as calm and shoot as well in combat as on the rifle range. It is simple logic really. You don't know where the target will appear, or for how long, or what it is, or even if it is the enemy, or if it is about to shoot you, or his mate is about to shoot you, or if your own mate is about to shoot you, or if artillery is about to shoot you, or if you really want to kill someone or .... bugger missed him !

My favourite is : "It is my constitutional right to be allowed to gun down a 15 year old who breaks into my house for a prank" Or the old nugget as uttered by Charlton Heston : "The can have my gun when they pry it from my cold dead fingers." Ironically, that is usually what happens.

Good example why we shouldn't allow anybody to own them as well

The level of fitness of a medieval Knight would have been well in excess of the peasants but not even close to modern people, even average ones and certainly no where near soldiers. Wiki says that the average suit of armour weighed in at about 20 to 30kg. which is less than a modern soldiers combat load out which is sometimes twice that. Standard Australian Army fitness levels, for non combat is to able to cover 15klm in 2hrs 45m carrying 20kg (combat is the same but with 35kg). Can't see Sir Bollocksalot keeping up my self. The diet of noble folk in the middle ages was appalling, lacking in nutrition and vital vitamins, they were a sickly lot. If exercise was pretty much limited to practising for bouts they could have had a reasonable level of Anaerobic fitness but very little Aerobic fitness. How many 4 miles runs did they do much less "sprinting" across and open field under fire. They ate almost exclusively meat with only a scant few vegetables, drank wine over water (generally safer in those days but not good for fitness) and very little cereals. Their lifestyle as well was not conducive to fitness, cold and damp with no medicines or cures for even minor ailments. Lung capacity was particularly bad. They was a program on the BBC awhile a go which was a humorous look at cuisine in Britain through the ages, up until very recent times people where generally subsisting just above malnutrition.

it is actually quite hard to hit something with a sniper rifle at close range, especially if it is a moving person who is not keen on dying. How do they go against infantry in the open at about 400 to 600 metres? If they are still ****e at that range I'd be sending them back to Stablack

Probably more to do with us never really using them as it generally isn't freezing or raining in Oz, least not at the delightful holiday spots the army took me to.

Don't know that rate of fire is what you want with a SRAAW, the crew would have only carried half a dozen or so rounds with them so maybe the number 2's time was better spent protecting the shooter so he could steady his aim? Also once you fired I'd expect the team to rapidly displace to a new position so reloading would be done after that?

Ahh I see, so the Swiss Army knife in the butt can be whipped out as required depending on the approaching Zombie variant. I would have thought that the Kiwi Drill Sergeants would have been just as pathological about leaning weapons as my own Ozzie psychopaths the assumption being that should said weapon slide and fall off the trunk it would discharge and a large area down range would be laid waste, resulting in said weapon being inserted where the sun don't shine or any nearby convenient and painful orifice. This would be quickly followed by the Hexamine stove should I have been foolish enough to let the Sgt see me light it under a hoochie. Lighting a fire under a low nylon sheet is an excellent way to fill eyes and clothes with smoke and spontaneously ignite the sheet. The sheet would then melt, sticking to the occupants who would then proceed to race about in blind agony screaming "GET OFF ! It burns US It burns US!" and in all likelihood tripping over the leaning uber-survivo-cannon which would fall, cutting the hapless, nylon coated, yet still not water proof, survivalist with the awkwardly placed bayonet on the way down and discharge once it hit the ground laying waste to the afore mentioned large area down range, thus wounding your buddies and attracting the attention of the esrtwhile Zombies. It fills me with joy to know that Mall Ninjas and Survivalist Knobs will be the first to go when the Zombies come.

Does that mean they occasionally explode for no apparent reason, simulating dropping a bomb?

His "street cred" or perhaps "bush cred" does take a bit of a hit from, attaching a bayonet that does not extend beyond the end of the barrel, leaning his ludicrous creation against a tree (basic no-no for the tooled up) and trying to light a cooking fire actually in their lean to ? Mall Ninja for sure

I think a lot of that was due to Hitler's generally Quixotic nature he often changed plans at the last minute. It is debatable whether assassinating Hitler would have brought it all to an end. As has been pointed out Hitler's competent Generals where stymied by his interference so having him in charge was of great value to the Allies. Had he been deposed a separate peace may have been pursued with the Western Allies but a separate peace was unlikely to be accepted. The Soviet Union would never have accepted, if a peace was even offered to them.

Please tell me Gecko45 is a piss take DT ?

Blame it on the boogie perhaps? not having your best run atm. (one thread off page 2 btw)

I think you might be over reaching there just a bit. I would have said that the things you list, games thru to sex, are actually vital to modern humans for a variety of reasons. Knives, Stones, Cars and people whilst they can kill things, it is not their sole purpose. If you take away knives you cannot eat you dinner, take away stones and you cannot build houses from them, take away cars and you have to walk, and a whole host of other things they can be used for. Guns have one use, to kill. Take away guns and the only thing you cannot do is shoot. I don't think a world where people aren't concerned about their children being shot because of the ubiquitous nature of firearms would be a boring one.

I'm with you Womble, if I can't successfully communicate the fundamental difference between a kilo of coke and a single handgun there is little hope for resolution of the important issues.

Did anyone actually point out to him that the Battle for Normandy didn't take place on the beaches? I mean you know, day one and we were ashore. I only ask as it seems to be the corner stone of his disgruntlement, despite Cm1 not modelling the landings either.

I can't imagine that this fellow's rantings will have much impact on sales. I no nothing of the chap but the post on the NZ Gamer is pretty obviously just bile, I think most others will think the same?

Yes that is precisely what I meant, wish I had your turn of phrase Mr Womble. Excepting of course that I believe that the Average Joe's powers should match to the duly appointed judiciary's and we can leave the soft furnishings as they are.