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Iv had a Chosta hit the top of an M2A3 before and done nothing. The whimsy of the damage system.

clear 'murican bia... nah just kidding

To be fair, they should be able to react automatically to Russian FAC/FO teams lasing them. That would mitigate some of the problem at least.

Don't we already have an advisory attachment team?

We don't even have fully functioning IP either. And I hope so too, I really do.

It was mentioned in the Russian coverage of the vehicle it possessed some kind of automated driver system, I was speculating whether it was linked to the aps system. Would be interesting if it was, or if it was parked reverse on to a deep ditch at the time of firing ha. Even if it was something as simple as automatically putting into reverse at a slow pace it would serve its purpose that I speculated.

If it was simply an obscurant though, then the speed and trajectory of the javelin missile would let it just follow through and hit the tank anyway. it would be going that fast that by the time the tracker and the obscurant have been fired, the angle would just carry the missile on to where the vehicle was anyway unless it moves itself out of the way. We are talking a very slim envelope for the missile to be spoofed by the aps and lock onto a different target instead otherwise it would hit the tank anyway.

Maybe, the overhead soft kill APS is linked to the so-called automated driver system so that when the radar detects an incoming top attack projectile it automatically swivels the dispensers, fires the aps, and reverses so the projectile wont continue and hit where the vehicle once was.

Ha, I know im going to take flak for this but wiggum is correct at the end of the day, JayA55, if your going to buy this to play singleplayer, you will get your moneys worth out of the campaigns and scenarios included in the game, but you will tire of the quick battle/skirmish mode quickly as the AI is easy to defeat. Besides the campaign and scenarios, this game is best enjoyed multiplayer, and the only real way to play this at this time is via pbem which is worth a punt.

Umm not quite. 9M123 Khrizantema is supersonic.

Autumn and winter aye, that would be decent.

The 152mm cannon upgrade wont be standard on the platform for some time, if at all. It will be a proof of concept thing I should think. We will see anyway, it can be done, its been done before, it certainly wont be a low velocity gun either, but I dont think it will become the standard. Logistics of current shell stocks would indicate otherwise and it would be cheaper to just equip the first T-14 unit with a vehicle that can use its current munition stocks.

It would be a soft kill APS system then as it reacts to the attacker but doesn't destroy the projectile. Shtora is the same.

I do believe when the numbers are run the turret is the place where tanks are hit the most because of the dynamics of combat and it having to be visible to itself present a threat.

Your thinking of an exploding counter-projectile, what if it was simply like a larger 12 gauge shotgun round?

Cheers Dre, but AFAIK the 45th Guards independent airborne reconnaissance regiment has dual subordination to both the SSO and the VDV chain with it being the primary expeditionary unit at full readiness for unconventional warfare duties. Could be wrong though, things have changed since 2012 quite substantially. The recon companies of VDV units are much better equipped than their motor rifle counterparts. Though ingame they probably would not be much different than the existing "new" reconnaissance companies. Visually however, which is half the battle in CM and part of what I think constitutes a good game and immertial tool, they would be different equipped.

The mounting spigots for the alternative armour would be under what is on there for now. Who knows what weight they can support in regards to alternative options for turret armouring. I don't think its as simple as "they forgot to armour the turret". It will have been built like that for a reason. One thing which might have been overlooked is that what is expected to come up against. What has most tank losses been attributed to in the last 30 years? The Russian opinion on this in light of their own experiences and what is going in on the middle-east, which is a likely model for future conflict, might be that the ATGM is the thing most likely to be facing down the T-14 on the battlefields of the next couple of decades. Therefor the reliance on a dual hard kill DAS system rather than armouring. But tank on tank combat will not have been completely neglected in the design of the platform. We will see anyway, ill look more into it as the vehicle develops of the next couple of months.

That's actually a really good idea.

If you fancy your Russian troops a bit more old school or 4th state of readiness combat unit. I have made a Flora Uniforms and equipment mod also.

Probably be able to put different arrays on instead of the shell, modular design for armour is a key design feature for all the new platforms.

Good old open source.

Threadomancy! Doubt Brazil, China or Greece would be involved in a conflict in the Black Sea, in Europe, at all.

@BTR: It was actually designed to be fitted with a bustle ammunition mounting, but the principle of the unmanned turret is the same. The gun could be fired from within the hull. http://defence.pk/threads/new-russian-tank-in-making.365255/

Knowing CM as well, I bet that the temperature and time of the map your playing on affects them also, with the night water clincher effect and radiometric crossover influencing detection at morning and evening hah.

Here are some photos of what is believed to be under that mystery plating after all. http://sh.uploads.ru/9icHm.jpg @BTR: I disagree, I do believe that turntable test bed was used as an early base development of what was to be the same turn table arrangement on Obj-195.