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JasonC, I'll be finishing the details tonite , expect the first e-mail tomorow ,

Axis 41, if German they should be a mix of green and reg,, That is the normal quality for well trained but inexperienced troops, The germans had one of the best trained armys in the world,

Je$u$ phuquing H christos JasonC, I'm bleeding here, I stand corrected and savagly mauled. so the 76mm AT and 76mm ziss are a normal sight in mid 43, 45mm AT not as common and just 1 platoon of T34s, and add a conscript heavy gun or rocket spotter. Trade my 81mm for 120mm, and have 81mms ON map, A platoon of pioneers with flame. And sharp shooters. (you realize I'm gonna want to pbem you with this) ok, I got that, and I've adjusted the terrain slightly, So who else wants to beat me over the head with facts? Get your shots in now , and be prepared to face my revenge in a PBEM game with a force based on your suggestions,

Cuirassier, You list a very ideal and plausable organization, however....... 1)the 122mm is a fairly high level formation, (division or army i think?) The 81mm is battalion level, 2) the 76mm AT is still fairly rare in early to mid 43, as is the 57mm, Both are fairly high level as well, The 45mm is endemic, and even the upgraded version is common, and fairly low level, (regiment or brigade i think?) 3) Agreed, the SU122 has no place on that map, maybe a KV platoon instead, Also agreed, the tanks should start arriving earlyer, (turn 5 through 10) Still , your choices are exelent, Lets get the nit pickers in here,

I'm impressed, I've tryed that hair brained stunt myself, but you actualy pulled it off, you lucky bugger,

The whole board is buzzing with bullsh*t. And it all boils down to the Wittman mission. And more specificly to the historical inacuracy of its depiction of soviet AT methods. Never mind all the crap about nazi fanboys, its just crap. We are talking about the SOVIETS. Therefore , will the resident experts PLEASE, gather forward and observe..... the SOVIET force, has 2 45mm AT guns, it needs 4 to 6 to be historicly reasonable, there are 4 AT rifles, With a company, there ought to be at least 12 2 50mm mortars instead of the 4 to 6 needed The 76mm infantry guns are both useless and pointless, trade them for 45mm AT guns, there is 1 81mm mortar spotter, he has no TRPs, THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE IN A PREPARED DEFENSE, Give him 3 TRPs, and trade his 4 tubes for 6 tubes, plus extra ammo, (600 rounds?) This is a soviet company in 1943, in a well prepared defense, ADJUST TRENCHES ACCORDINGLY, So, the force available is 1 soviet company of 3 platoons infantry, plus organic 12 AT rifles, plus organic 50mm mortars plus organic maxim mgs Plus from battalion 1 81mm spotter, several AT infantry teams Plus from brigade, additional 50mm mortars, additional maxims, additional AT rifles, and 4 to 6 45mm AT guns ***************************************** So what did i get wrong here ?

ok that post was not eaten, so iexplore is not going to screw me any more today , my eaten posts were both long and fairly involved , i have no idea how to recover them, iexplore performed an illegal opperation when i posted them,

ok,, that makes 2 posts eaten

Billy, By all means play it. "Wittmann in the East" is a deeply inacurate depiction of soviet AT capability for the summer of 43, But please do play it ,, as soviets , If only for the challenge,

Andreas I will mention politics if I please , Death to rome, Up the Cymru, Because the tribes of the western hills are better than any damm lowland scum, and collaborationg with Nero's legions will get you a well deserved cubit of bronze through the gut,

How much wood could a wood chuck chuck If wood chuck could chuck wood ,,,,,,

Cuirassier; Ummm I dated someone who worked there, And I trust her, I ate there several times, I have seen the current employees of our local branch, You couldnt get me to eat that crap if you pointed a pissed off *James Hewlett at me. *(if you got the reference, say so) Its like Mcdonalds with poultry,

I know jacksquat about physics, Thermodynamics is as alien to me as the folks on alpha centari,

Next topic please ,, and zmoney, yes ,, MILLIONS ,,, we were almost exterminated , and it was a deliberate policy, Please feel free to minimize the genocide by coming to a rez and spewing your garbage to the elders, we need more fishing bait,

JasonC, I will look, whether I will understand is another matter, but I will play them, Sergei, If you dont like my abuse of the english language, wait till you see what I do to your army,,,,, I'm going to pluck your aircraft, and fry them in oil, I'll serve them in a paper bucket labled KFC, with bad fries and cold gravy, I'm going to make your artilery commit bizzare acts of proctology on themselves with their own weapons, I'm going to send your panzers back to you with bad flame jobs, neon plush interiors, jacked up rear suspensions, and fuzzy dice, I'm going to make your infantry dance in a brittney spears video, In drag!!!!!!

Joachim, british columbia is a province in canada , its on the west coast ,, its got good ski country and good pot growing ,, it rains a lot and the women wear very little, i keep meaning to go there ,,, slysniper, say what ?, you just made zero sense, JasonC, The mission is meeting the editor, give me some advice,

Jason, "Whoever designed this scenario doesn't understand the first thing about Russian tactics, or even understand their equipment. They are cartoon clay pigeons to shoot, not an army. Let alone the army that actually stopped the Germans" Your point is shared, This is not the Soviet army, it's a joke,

Jason, I see your point , it was a draw , and only because i was fighting the AI, If the axis had been a human player , I would have been slaughtered by the 15th turn, And thats with my arrogance and tenacity,, Logic dictates that I surrender on the first turn , My mother could have organized a better defencive layout, Of course my mother could probably have scared both armys into going home and cleaning their rooms, Sombody loves the SS, and used the CM engine as a masterbation tool, I'm going to wash my computer after this, with hot water and BLEACH, I was able to hurt several of the Pz4s, and a few half tracks, but the Tigers were invulnerable to my defence, As you said, my guns were unsuited to the AT role, both my 45s were badly placed and my good cover was on fire, the fact that I only had 2, In a pre planed defence, is just pathetic, need 4 (2 per side)with extra hq unit, My AT rifles were too few, A company on defence should have at least a dozen of the things. not 4,,, I dont even want to talk about my 76.2 infantry guns ,, (USELESS) I think I may have made their infantry cringe slightly, either that or they were laughing at me ,,, I swear I heard hoots of germanic derision and teutonic pity coming from the enemy masses, And only 2 50mm mortars??? what the phuq? There should be no less than 6, and 6 maxims, not 3 , And why dont I have an AA gun or 2? The 82 spotter actualy did kill a half track, and sent some german infantry scrambling for cover, with casualtys, But it was realy about anti tank ability, and I didnt have any, Half way through turn 21, my company HQ had a close call with a stray 88 round, He imediately snuck off the feild, more humiliated than frightened, I let him go, poor bugger, My Impression of the soviet defence; Comrades Curly and Larry went to the caspian beach resort for the weekend , and left comrade Moe in charge, Moe was confused so he called comrade Mickey Mouse, But it was comrade Goofy who was in the office, This is the only logical explanation, I need a drink,

Playing this mission as soviets, Finding it a royal pain, All units are padlocked and unmovable , some are in awfull locations, and must be walked to a better location , at risk of being spoted and killed, The tanks arive on turn 10 in an awkward place , In the middle of my far left flank, And they must be moved from this dangerous location before the germans spot them ,, At turn 12 i lost all 3 tanks in 10 seconds max,, Has anyone had any experience playing this one as soviets ?

the AT rifle was and is a nusance weapon, it does minor but still very real dammage ,,

use rocket barrage on first turn center on the church blast the ridge with IS2s, move quickly to take both forested areas, you will want these destroy house on near ridge and pound any possible german positions on ridge move your company HQ and both maxims up to the ruined house, along with remaining artilery spotter, Shunt all reinforcements to the left and up ,,,

very interested ,,

Anything is possible, And many russians are still part of traditional rural cultures, with long memorys,

Bigduke6 , it isnt real beer ,, its that american stuff,