Gud

Tas and Arpad shared the same chassis. Tas was to be Panther-like tank with 75L70 gun, Arpad was to be Jagdpanther-like with 88mm gun. IIRC one prototype of Arpad was completed and took part in defence of it's factory (Gyor area).

I don't get it, the Finnish swastika originated from coat-of-arms of Von Rosen family (first FAF airplane was donated by Von Rosen). The Finns turned it down post 1945, but hey, it never was a Nazi symbol !!! Phurr !!! I'm glad that Poland is outside the CDVland and I can order US copy

Yes ! Somebody please post a pic of LWP !!! Long live Rudy 102 !!! (I wonder how many got the joke ) BTW, Freedom in Polish is Wolnosc - so that makes Freedom for Poland - Wolnosc dla Polski. Swoboda means something more like "freedom of movement" - wolnosc is more psychological/political freedom.

Regarding Hungarians, does Zrinyi have it's own model ?? And are Tas and Arpad in ???

Close ! It was a 37mm gun on Konsomolec tractor/tankette. See: http://www.missing-lynx.com/gallery/german/vvkom.htm Actually if this was a Polish vehicle, it would have (p) designation. Germans used Polish TKS tankette as gun tractors (designation SdKfz 335 (p) IIRC) in Western front. I have a photo o US G.I standing next to TKS with 50mm gun towed behind. The Nazi were the greates kleptomaniacs of the war, for sure [ September 20, 2002, 08:31 AM: Message edited by: Gud ]

How about PanzerJager 3,7cm auf SKZ-1 ® ??

The corrrection cometh. The Brummbar was developed after the German experience in Stalingrad (S. Zaloga). The Germans did realize, however, that they needed a large gun (bigger than the 105mm) SPG in an armored casemate- something they did not have at the time. So, they created 12 "Sturminfanteriegshultz". These comprised of a 150mm howitzer mounted in an armored casemate on a PzKW III hull. If I remember correctly, most- if not all- were lost in the Stalingrad campaign.</font>

It's Die Panzerwurfmine. See Panzerfaust Page for most comprehensive coverage of Nazi infantry anti-tank weapons.

Finns are rock-hard, ice-cool, and gave the Red Army a solid kick in the butt, and for that alone they score high in my books.

Chad, Great list. However I would add: - to links section: Tanks ! - a great website covering over 60 nation's armour. As for tanks - I would include T-28 in 1941 section...

Chad, Great list. However I would add: - to links section: Tanks ! - a great website covering over 60 nation's armour. As for tanks - I would include T-28 in 1941 section...

One more for German demo: http://ftp.gamesweb.com/pub/demos/CM2_Demo_GER.exe

T-34 entered service in 1940 IIRC. It (and KW) were world's best tanks in 1941, period. Luckily for Germans, the Soviets hopelessly dispersed them along the front, mixing these capable tanks with "damn fast but thin skinned" BT's "pretty slow and thin skinned" T-26 and "Damn slow and damn unrealiable" T-28 (BTW is it in ??).

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A big glass of the "good thing" - 3/5 Zubrowka Vodka (that one with grass inside) and 2/5 of apple juice. Serve as cold as possible. Yummmm.

...and I can be of assistance regarding amphinious assaults on Kerch pennisula.

Erhumm. Erhumm. Semi-legal takeover over governements (sic)? The communists imposed their own evil dictatorship on all of Eastern Europe. There was no semi-legal about it. They shot or imprisoned anyone without a party badge or anyone WITH a party badge whose face didn't fit that week.</font>

Holy sh!t! Where'd they fight their way to? By 1946 Eastern Europe wasn't a nice place to be, esp. for an old Waff.SS division. Anywhere I can read about this?</font>

Rune, Thanks ! Could be that my book on Soviet AFVs (Polish one) confused anti-concrete shells with AP ones. I thought that since the gun is same as towed one, AP shells were issued. I wonder how will 152mm shell affect light AFVs - flip them over ? Actually my book mentions also production version of KV with 122mm howitzer... I'm an old SP veteran (SPww2 and MBT currently) and ever since Sp1 KV 2 had AP shells, guess I got used to that Cheers ! [ August 23, 2002, 12:47 PM: Message edited by: Gud ]

KW-2 had AP rounds. It's gun was actually a obr.20 howitzer, which had AP (APHE actually) rounds. What is true is that no Soviet vehicle used HEAT rounds - these came after ww2.

...not to mention such sweeties as RPG-43 heavy AT grenade, or just plain old satchel charge. My real qustion is: will Finns have broomsticks/shovels/screwdeivers as AT-Weapons...

KwazyDog, Is T-28 going to be in ? Puhleeseee.... I can live without T-35, but I'm looking forward to have some fun with Finnish tanks and T-28 was their favorite (until StuGs arrived).

Excellent ! Can't wait to have this baby shoot some Russkies....and maybe demolish a village or two

Hi Cook, Actually Germans did use tungsten core rounds. They were used in 37, 50, 75 and 88mm guns, as well as "bore-squeeze" 28, 42 and 75mm guns. The problem was that in 1942/43 Germans ran out of tungsten supply and production of tungsten core ammo was cancelled. It was decided that 75mm and 88mm guns can handle most of opposition using standard AP ammo, and thus the remaining tungsten was used for ammo for 50mm guns (which badly needed APCR rounds), and few remaning bore-squeeze guns. A very, very limited supply of APCR was issued on Eastern Front when JS (Josef Stalin) heavy tanks were faced.

A quick and dirty guide to Poles in ww2: 1939 - WP (Wojsko Polskie), regular Polish army. Defeated by combined effort of Nazis and Soviet. Most survivors fled to Romania and Hungary. Thanks to sympathy of these countires' governments, almost all Polish soldiers were able to reach France or England. 1940- Polish forces integrated into French army, incl. 1 Tank Bde. Fought in Low Countries campaign. Most were captured or fled to Switzerland, a few hundred made it to Dunkirk and escaped 1940-1946 PSZ (Polskie Sily Zbrojne) - Poles fighting alongside UK forces. 1 Bde at Narvik, 1 Bde at Tobruk, then 1 Corps (2nd Polish Corps) in Italy (see Anders army below) and 1 Tank Div and 1 Para Bde in NWE 1944-1945 (these folks are in CM). Most famous for Falaise, Arnhem, Mte. Cassino and Bologne. 1941-1942 Anders' Army. Polish POWs in Russian captivity were set free when Stalin discovered that his Red Army is going down. There was a plan to create Polish Army in Russia, but when Katyn Massacre was discovered Poland broke all dipl. relations with USSR - Anders took his men (and lots of civilians) for a long trek to Persia. These soldiers were backbone of 2nd Polish Corps of PSZ. 1944-1945 LWP (Ludowe Wojsko Polskie) Poles fighting in Red Army. Org same as Russians. Partisan factions: AK (Armia Krajowa) - Democratic London-backed faction, largest of all, decimated by Soviets after 1945. AL (Armia Ludowa/Gwardia Ludowa) Communist partisans. NSZ (Narodowe Sily Zbrojne) - Ultra-right fascist/nationalist partisan. If it's not Polish and not Catholic, then it's their target. BCh (Bataliony Chlopskie) - Peasant militia, later joined AK Hope it helps