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I really hate it when my lack of education and ignorance is so obvious to everyone but myself. Thanks for learning me something new for the day guys. Now I have to call an engineer friend and have him explain it so I can understand it. My headache is only getting worse here.

Thanks Peter, but I've already been there and now I have a headache. :mad: It all makes sense but it doesn't make any sense.

Momentum...fascinating. I wish I never got kicked out of physics classs. I plugged in the numbers from my example above and for all practical purposes the momentum is equal yet the energy is vastly different. My brain is having a hard time dealing with this. A perfect example of why you kiddies should stay in school.

Peter, velocity squared. Otherwise you get the idea. Rollstoy, state of mind has nothing to do with it. It's the difference between 36ft lbs and 4,800ft lbs that has everything to do with it. Here's a page that can explain recoil energy much better than I can. clicky the linky has a neat little chart too so you don't have to do a bunch of math. For bullet energy you have to do your own homework. That's as easy as finding porn.

Really? I'll use my rifle as an example just because I know the numbers. Bullet energy=300gr./2,700fps/4,850ft.lbs. of energy. Rifle recoil energy=63,000gr./16fps/36ft.lbs of energy. Those are pretty rough numbers but close enough for this. You're failing to take into consideration is the rifle weighing more than 200 times what the bullet weighs. Believe me when I say I can knock a 1200lb moose literally right off it's hooves and yet remain standing. I will agree that the movies way over do it though.

I've driven off and on many tracks too. While you might not go perfectly straight with one track you damn sure don't pivot steer. It's just way over done but probably a limitation of the damge model. I guess it beats driving trackless a mile across the map and then backing right onto the track.

Everytime I get a track blown off the tank pivots around the missing track. That's not how it's supposed to work.

I've been in more T72s than I can count. They were everywhere during the Gulf War. My unit found a runner and brought it back to Germany along with a BMP. At the time I thought they were craptacular with their manual tranny, laterals, no seat back and all too often turret upside down 50 feet away. Then one day I found myself in a Soviet MRR at NTC and learned the beauty of the T72. Equipment don't mean much. It's all training and tactics. When can I preorder?

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I got one on my right shoulder too but I'm not in uniform anymore. Still slogging slowly through the mud.

Intriguing isn't it The fact is, that the Shermans has one brake and one brake only (well, one on each side of the differential). And that is the steering brake. However, the speed reduction induced by applying the steering brake is sufficient to stop the tank if both levers are applied. If you could actually brake a track to a standstill, you should also be able to pivot steer the tank over the braked track - but as I think we agree, that was not possible with the Sherman. Claus B </font>

I had a panicked PzIII take at least 5 shots (all hits too) at a T34 before a PzIV came up and finished the job.

I challenge anyone to name any tracked vehicle that can't brake one track and drive the other. All the best, John. </font>

That's because in CMBO any tank could pivot (even tanks not capable of pivoting) with no regards to speed or actual turning radius. If anything they fixed the problem.

It's been over 10 years since my last Hohenfels. What are you using for T80s and BMPs? At NTC we used M551s for both. Their sights became totally useless well before it got fully dark. Any night gunnery involved blindly spraying coax until you flashed the target's strobe and then flipping the switch to main gun.

A 90 degree turn in 10m is a little tight for a tank moving at speed. In CMBO everythng did a pivot steer even vehicles that weren't capable. Looks like they finally fixed that. It should work just fine to do a rotate to order 90 degrees and then on the next turn move ahead 10m.

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I sent out a turn to Redwolf, Fytinghellfish, Sgt Gold, & Mare Ichythis just now. Tell me if you guys don't recieve anything. I think I got everything to the right place. Rother

I guess since the Arctic Circle is only 70 miles away count me in. There should be at least one real Nordic type among all the southern boys. Rother

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Puff the Magic Dragon: I can run CM with my dog! Each time I throw my CD, he runs and bring it back to me. Hey - that's cool. I can even make my dog run with CM <hr></blockquote> I've tried everything and I still can't get it to work. I even uninstalled the vicous guard dog drivers and replaced them with fluffy retriever drivers which caused uncontrollable tail chasing. I demand BTS do somefink! No where was there any warning that CM wouldn't run with my current setup. Rother

Glad you made it back. I gave up on the fishing life after the oil spill. I was on the boat for a month for no pay until we could finally drop a net which was in Togiak. Yukon kings were $3.75/lb that year so it almost worked out. Should've worked for VECO cleaning oil instead in 20/20 hindsight. I used to start herring in Cordova and follow them to Unalakleet, spend all my money in Nome, a month on the Yukon for salmon, a few weeks in Naknek where I spent all my money again and finished up the season in Pilot Point. Never made any money to speak of but got an extended ocean cruise every summer. Rother

Danzig, You're correct in your assumption but the tank you're talking about still has two tracks. You have to brake one track to turn. Once the track is off the drive sprocket you can't brake it. Most likely the tank will roll off the broken track. There is a chance that it will bind up allowing you to pivot around it but don't bet on it. Rother

A tank with one track can't turn at all. Think about it. Rother

Slapdragon, Could you ask Hans about gunning on the move using the aux sight and no laser range finder? I think you might get a completely different answer. Whoever asked about Bradley gunners. I used to be one but it's apples and oranges compared to a tank. You shoot a 25mm more like a machinegun than a tank gun. If you miss you just walk the rounds on target. A monkey can do it. It's been a long time since I fired a gunnery and I barely remember it but I don't remeber ever firing on the move. If I did it was at nothing more than walking speed. There were moving engagments but I think we stopped before firing. I could be wrong though. I have alot more experience in a M551-NTC turret. Gunning on the move was impossible. Not because the gyro was inop but because you couldn't keep your eye on the sight. Mount a rifle scope, binos or preferably a spotting scope solidly to any vehicle and try to use them on the move. You can't even look through them much less attempt to aim them. Which brings me to the British test that Steve mentioned. If the gunner is holding the gun on his shoulder then the gun, gunner and sight should be moving the same. That would make firing on the move far easier than a moving gunner trying to look through a fixed sight. Rother