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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Maximus: What the??? They didn't pop up the second time??? Oh well, how 'bout this one?? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I think you need some UBB training.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Formerly Babra: A "T" prefix indicates equipment submitted for government testing and approval. An "M" prefix indicates equipment accepted for government use. Why the numbers are so often similar (M1 Mortar, M1 Garand, &c) is a mystery to me, but I suspect that a new number series was commenced for each category of equipment. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> And I think if an "A#" was added, this meant an "official" modification was made to said piece of equipment. And if an "E#" was added, this meant an "unofficial" modification was made. I think. I'm sure I'll be corrected later... ------------------ No smilies were harmed in the making of this post.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jager 7: Rommel22, Get hold of a copy of Michael Reynolds' STEEL INFERNO - 1st SS Panzer Corps in Normandy. It's great reading, well balanced and very informative. Out here... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Can you let us know where we can order a copy from? Or maybe post the ISBN? Thanks. [EDIT] Nevermind, I found it. ------------------ No smilies were harmed in the making of this post. [This message has been edited by CEO (edited 06-11-2000).]

I remember someone talking about Klingon Academy. Just to let you know, the game has gone gold. Read about it here: http://www.gonegold.com/ ------------------ No smilies were harmed in the making of this post.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Offwhite: LOL I have seen eloquence personified... and his name is Peng<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Uh oh! You should call him MR Peng. Watch out for those smilies! ------------------ No smilies were harmed in the making of this post.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Blackhorse: Gotcha CEO. I didn't realize at the time that your book was Nafziger. He (Nafziger) pretty much does TO&E research for a living. So, I just reinforced what you had already stated (Smilie removed for MrPeng)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Thats okay. I should have posted the Author also. Hey, it was midnight, and I had to go to work in the morning. MG, please provide a page no. and then quote the text of the book you speak so much of. Try to PROVIDE evidence that your position is right, instead of "thumping" your "bible". ------------------ No smilies were harmed in the making of this post. [This message has been edited by CEO (edited 06-05-2000).]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Blackhorse: MG, You are starting to look foolish (I'm being lenient). First of all, I showed you a second source explaining Volksgrenadier composition. The source was George Nafzifger. Ever heard of him? Any response? A few questions for you. 1. Who the hell is this guy Alex Buchner you keep popping off about? What are his credentials? 2. I want direct quotes from his book showing the use of the HMG, the LMG, and any other MG. If you want to maintain any legitimacy in this arguemnt, you better get reading and writing fella. 3.I, no scratch that, We want you to go ahead and quote Herr Buchner on the TO&E of the Volksgrenadier while you're at it. Oh, and a few more things. 1.Volksgrenadier ARE NOT VOLKSSTURM 2.You seem incapable of understanding that the HMG moves as fast as any squa in CM. Oh hey, did you miss that? The only thing they can't do is run. How long does it take to break down a HMG from the Lafette Mount? How long does it take to set up? What magnification are the optics? 3. Your website has two ranks that are utter rubbish. SS Oberpanzergrenadier and SS Panzergrenadier. Where the heck did you dig those up... ALex Buchner? Now, go do your research and get back when you've compiled the quotes from the book. Allons<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Uhhh. Check back a few posts. The info you posted, I already let 'im have it with it! ------------------ No smilies were harmed in the making of this post.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Formerly Babra: Don't forget the Hi-Fi <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Screw the Hi-Fi! Those suckers had Dolby 5.1!

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Germanboy: Right, coming back to the original question, maybe we can make this a decent discussion after all... UK/Canadian operations, ETO history: Victory in the West, 2 Vols, official history, check HMSO or your local library if in the UK. The Canadian Army 1939-1945 Col. PC Stacey, Ottawa 1948 Smaller stuff: Reynolds 'Steel Panthers', written from the German perspective, Normandy, Caen to Falaise. A couple of divisional histories by Patrick Delaforce. I have read 'The Polar Bears' (49th Division) and 'The Fighting Wessex Wyverns' (43rd Division). They cover Normandy to 8/5/45. Well written, minor errors, lots of first person accounts. Delaforce was a troop leader in the 11th Armoured in Normandy. Ken Tout 'A fine night for tanks: The road to Falaise' about operation 'Totalize'. Autobiography: Ken Tout 'Tank!' he was a gunner in the 2nd Northants Yeomanry during Totalize. Good read. Forgotten the author '64 days of a Normandy summer' There are a number of websites with very little info. One is the 'Scots at war' project. Have a look for that, forgotten the URL. On my next trip to London in two weeks I will stop by at the IWM to see if they have anything interesting. In general, I have had a hard time dredging up UK stuff. There seems to be no equivalent to the Center for Military History or the Center for Army Lessons Learned in the US here. If there is, could someone please post a link. Hope that helps. If anybody is aware of other material, please let me know. Now can we restrain ourselves to mature discussion about the topic of sources for Commonwealth tactics here, please. I know I am not without fault, but it would be really nice if this thread worked out that way. Cheers. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Thanks. At least some people try to help. ------------------ No smilies were harmed in the making of this post.

I know there is a lot of info out there about German infantry, TD, and Tank tactics, but what about the Commonwealth forces? Or the Americans for that matter? Are there any good sources out there that contain any good info? Thanks ------------------ No smilies were harmed in the making of this post.

I have a book titled: The German Order of Battle Infantry in World War II (ISBN 1-85367-393-5) which contains Divisional TO&E for all German Inf. Divisions (granted, not all the info. is there, usually just down to how many companies, battalions, Regiments in division with LMGs and HMGs usually listed). Below is a quote from the entry for the 544th Volks Grenadier Division: "1st and 2nd Infantry Battalion 1 Battalion Staff (1 LMG) 1 Supply Company (1 LMG) 3 Infantry Companies (9 LMG ea) 2 Submachinegun platoons 1 Heavy Company (8 HMGs, 1 LMG, 4 75mm leIG and 6 81mm mortars)" Now most of the references used for this book are captured German Documents and other books I don't have time to write in here. Now I THINK that since it mentions SPECIFICALLY 2 Submachinegun platoons and HMGs, that this lends more weight to Charles and Steve 's arguments. Why would it SPECIFICALLY call out SMG platoons, if they did not exist (unless it is wrong). Now here is another quote from the book about Volks Grenadier Divisions (a "generic" organization): "...The division had a battalion of obsolete 75mm field guns to make up for a shortfall in 105mm howitzers, and all the artillery batteries were reduced to three guns each. However, the infantry was equiped with LARGE (my emphasis) numbers of submachineguns and anti-tank weapons - the Panzerschrek and Panzerfaust." Again I think this backs Steve and Charles. Okay, I'll give the Bibliography of the book: Bender, R. J., and Law, R. D., Uniforms, Organization and History of the Afrika Korps (USA:R. J. Bender, 1973) Kellig, W., Das Deutche Heer 1939-1945 (Bad Neuheim: Verlag Hans-Henning Podsun, 1956) Lumsden, R., Himmler's Black Order: A History of the SS, 1923-45 (Phoenix Mill: Sutton Publishing, 1997) Mueller-Hillebrand, B., Das Heer 1933-1945, vols I and II (Frankfurt-am-Main) Tessin, G., Verbande und Truppen der deutschen Wehrmacht und Waffen-SS im Zweiten Weltkrieg 1939-1945 (Osnabruck: Biblo Verla, 1977) Records of Headquarters, German Army High Command, in National Archives, American Historical Association Committee for the Study of War Documents, Washington, DC, 1960. ------------------ No smilies were harmed in the making of this post. [This message has been edited by CEO (edited 06-05-2000).] [This message has been edited by CEO (edited 06-05-2000).]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MG Mannschft: I am after Real Information, Please Help me. MG <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> You already have your "real" information, so stop asking.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Wesreidau: Just out of interest, how many of you other guys lose the power of your legs whilst reading/researching on the toilet? Just the other day I had to prop myself up for a good 5 mins for the circulation to kick in...ohhh, the sacrifices we all make! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Well, I don't know about my legs, but I've had the cheeks get a little numb ------------------ No smilies were harmed in the making of this post.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Maximus: I'll probably go take a good healthy ****...ohhh, you mean when we get the game. I'll probably look at the editor as well, and just see what all the units we have to choose from.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> No, you'll go take a good healthy **** so you can read the manual. ------------------ No smilies were harmed in the making of this post.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Berlichtingen: CEO, Steve said there were only about 40 scenarios (not including the 3 from the beta demo, operations and tutorial/training scenarios). Just to play it safe, I'm capping this at 35. So, with that in mind, how about 34? [This message has been edited by Berlichtingen (edited 06-03-2000).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> That will be fine. I thought there were 50 or so...

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Germanboy: I wonder how Steve and Charles are going to model that in CM2... Where we will also finally see the kitchen sink, I have an inkling... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I'd like to know how/if they would model those four legged friends with the special little packages on their backs. Now THAT would be the kitchen sink. (Note, no smilies were harmed in the making of this post)

How about no. 49 for my first pbem, as the allies?

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Madmatt: Now fortified with our own 'Pricless' style ads! Check it out, you will see! And be sure to read Fionn's 17th report from his Sunken Lane AAR with Bil. Madmatt <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> HEY MADMATT!!! I think you need a new video card or something. What is with that purple cammo on the Jagdpanther? Is it one of those new teletubby Jagdpanther secret weapons that lull you into submission with a bunch of mumbo-jumbo? WELL IS IT!!! Maybe it is 5 Cartoons of cigs? (Please note: I used 3 or a multiple of 3 !!! when needed). Erick

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Big Time Software: Seahawk, PanzerLeader was referring to a term known as "turret down" where a tank is almost totally shielded from view by a terrain feature. Only the very top of the turret, or sometimes only the commander standing up in the turret, is visible to the enemy. This allows the tank to spot enemies, but (for the most part) not be fired upon. Of course, its own gun is blocked by the same terrain feature so it really can't fire back from this position (a couple of degrees of angle, at most, won't allow lobbing shells over the obstruction - at least not for direct fire). The more common position is "hull down", where the body (hull) of the tank is obstructed from view and fire, but the turret and gun are high up enough to be "clear". This means the turret can be hit by enemy fire, but the tank is able to shoot, and its silhouette is much smaller than usual since the hull is protected. You can do this in Combat Mission. Charles<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I guess having a LOS for the TC and a LOS for the gunner would tax the CPU alot (okay folks, we just doubled ALL AFV LOS calculations). That would also affect the AI also I would guess. The AI would have to determine if it wants to creep up the hill and risk being shot, etc. Maybe when everyone has dual CPU's running at 2 GHz, then EVERYTHING (kitchen sink included) will be there. PS: My prediction is that CM will be THE greatest game released this year, bar none. It will take all awards from all places. Anxiously (wow did I spell that! ) waiting for CM to appear in the mail. Erick

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Maximus: I'm from Illinois. How about the rest of you? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Mpls./St. Paul, Minnesota area.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PanzerLeader: CEO, thanx for the reply. But here the question was that the Tank Commander, from his turret, should have LOS forward over the ridge. I didn't want to fire, I just wanted to see whether there was anybody over the ridge. Yet LOS seems to be calculated from lower than the TC so it didn't work. I moved it slightly forward, but then it wasn't in a good hull down position anymore and got wasted by 5 waiting Shermans it hadn't even seen 10 seconds before... That's something that could be improved... If you want I can send you the picture so you can make your own opinion on the problem.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> After further review, I think the commander of the vehicle should be able to see where your line of sight marker is. I can see the commander's head and arms; I would say that he should be able to see over the hill. Any other thoughts? Is LOS figured from the center of the vehicle, from the commander, from the gunner, or a combination of the above?

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PanzerLeader: CEO, thanx for the reply. But here the question was that the Tank Commander, from his turret, should have LOS forward over the ridge. I didn't want to fire, I just wanted to see whether there was anybody over the ridge. Yet LOS seems to be calculated from lower than the TC so it didn't work. I moved it slightly forward, but then it wasn't in a good hull down position anymore and got wasted by 5 waiting Shermans it hadn't even seen 10 seconds before... That's something that could be improved... If you want I can send you the picture so you can make your own opinion on the problem.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Yes please do. I'd be interested in seeing it. latvala@uswest.net Thanks

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PanzerLeader: But no way to post it if it isn't on the net right? Oh well, I'll just wait and create my homepage later... I swear LineOfSight is wrong on the pic. I've got a StugIII behind a ridge line. Only the turret emerges, and it is not buttoned. The tank commander should have clear line of sight over the ridge, yet LOS is blocked... It should even be able to fire...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> The LOS of the gunner may be blocked. I think he would need to see the target to shoot it. The commander would only say: "HEY, over there, shoot!" or something like that.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Moiety: What's IIRC?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> If I Remember(Recall) Correctly

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Big Time Software: We try The fact is that we did not intend on doing a lot of these details. But when we were playing we kept saying to ourselves, "gee... it would be cool if the tank actually sunk into the ground. Hey, and that would be great visual information too!" Generally when something passes the "cool and usefull" test it only has to pass the "practical to do" test in order to find its way in. Wait until you hear the sounds at 44kh instead of the Demo's 22kh Oh, and there is nothing scarier than a heavy bombardment of Nebelwerfers! Even if you are the German player it is pretty tense, since these things aren't all that accurate Steve<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> And so sayeth the mighty gods of BTS, Charles and Steve: "If thou wishes thine feature in our most magnificent creation, thou must pass THE three laws: it must be cool, useful, and above all else practical" Oh yeah in answer to the first post, also I have not seen a single game that has all the little details that CM has. [This message has been edited by CEO (edited 05-19-2000).]