togi Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 I have arranged an QB , I would hope to make a probe against Americans with German Armored platoons 1 company grenaider and 2 stuh 42 , 1 marder III M , 1 Pz IVH late I have seen that against me all opponent is famous 57 MM ATG , I have counted 11 ATG after battle.. Where is infantry ? Or defense armor? That's my question? I can say that QB's suck except ones playing against Human Opponent Very annoying 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 It seems there is a bug about AT gun selection in QB, as far as I know. That will probably be patched soon. (explained in another topic) Polo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 I can say that QB's suck except ones playing against Human Opponent You can. Doesn't make it true though. There are several threads mentioning the AI's unfortunate selection of massed ATGs, particularly in small battles, and it's been mentioned pretty much every time that this is a bug that slipped through. You also don't need to play a human to avoid this. You lose some of the fog of war, but you can select the AI's forces yourself if you want. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
togi Posted May 28, 2011 Author Share Posted May 28, 2011 You can. Doesn't make it true though. There are several threads mentioning the AI's unfortunate selection of massed ATGs, particularly in small battles, and it's been mentioned pretty much every time that this is a bug that slipped through. You also don't need to play a human to avoid this. You lose some of the fog of war, but you can select the AI's forces yourself if you want. if I know AI forces , it will be a slight spoiler for me, so I don't want to select AI forces before the game 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnart Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 The AI is just not that smart. If you want a real challenge nothing beats playing a human. Multiplayer shines the most like this in any game i have found. The only problem with human PBEM is sometimes your opponant can takes days to get a a turn to you, quit, or dissapear all together. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 if I know AI forces , it will be a slight spoiler for me, so I don't want to select AI forces before the game So 'slight spoiler' when setting up small QBs == '1-player QB sucks'. Fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
togi Posted May 28, 2011 Author Share Posted May 28, 2011 So 'slight spoiler' when setting up small QBs == '1-player QB sucks'. Fine. QB sucks because of unlogical force selection not selecting the troops myself If I select the troops that I know that QB does not suck but as I said before, selecting the troops myself causes a spoiler and I don't want to prefer this type selection., This is my choice BTW, I want to explain clearly because your one sided equation seems wrong 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattias Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 QB sucks because of unlogical force selection not selecting the troops myself A tip Togi: Stop using the word "sucks" when referring to some ones work. In particular when the issue you are raising concerns but one tiny aspect out of thousands in what over all is a very good simulation. It´s rude and it makes you look bad no matter how relevant your reflections may be. Cheers, Mattias 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
togi Posted May 28, 2011 Author Share Posted May 28, 2011 A tip Togi: Stop using the word "sucks" when referring to some ones work. In particular when the issue you are raising concerns but one tiny aspect out of thousands in what over all is a very good simulation. It´s rude and it makes you look bad no matter how relevant your reflections may be. Cheers, Mattias Mattias, sucks mean there is a problem in this area,may be a little bit rude but not a swear mean, I know this is a good simulation but I have to say my thoughts for correcting this fault or game progression As I post your private e-mail, you have written some abuse words to my personality before deleting the post this area, I saw , so you're the last man to give me above warnings for rude content. Togi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSX Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 You can. Doesn't make it true though. There are several threads mentioning the AI's unfortunate selection of massed ATGs, particularly in small battles, and it's been mentioned pretty much every time that this is a bug that slipped through. You also don't need to play a human to avoid this. You lose some of the fog of war, but you can select the AI's forces yourself if you want. Thats what I do. I wondered about that AT selection. Mind you, AI will never beat human for an opponent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactical Wargamer Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Togi it is an AI after all. As far as I look at it, it is purely a training tool for when you play real live thinking opponents. Using that as a basis I think the AI is the best I have seen in 25 years of playing computer wargames. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
togi Posted May 28, 2011 Author Share Posted May 28, 2011 Togi it is an AI after all. As far as I look at it, it is purely a training tool for when you play real live thinking opponents. Using that as a basis I think the AI is the best I have seen in 25 years of playing computer wargames. AI is good while in-game actions but bad at force selections. I have selected mix force type and computer for troop determination All I have seen is 11 ATG what's the logic of mix force selection? That's the case 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemoN Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 All I have seen is 11 ATG what's the logic of mix force? That's my question? It's a known bug and will be fixed in the next patch afaik. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
togi Posted May 28, 2011 Author Share Posted May 28, 2011 It's a known bug and will be fixed in the next patch afaik. If it's accepted and listed a bug by BFC, good news for me. thanks for the info 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattias Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 As I post your private e-mail, you have written some abuse words to my personality before deleting the post this area, I saw , so you're the last man to give me above warnings for rude content. Indeed you did, under the head line "WARNING" (of what I wonder?) "Hey I have seen your message before deleting from my post What is your goal while writing on your crappy thoughts?" That´s what I am talking about. What you saw was someone thinking about what they are saying, i.e. me. I realized that my wording was not conductive to a civilized discourse so I removed it and replaced the original text with one that was actually meant as a more or less friendly pointer to you. How about that? M. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
togi Posted May 28, 2011 Author Share Posted May 28, 2011 Indeed you did, under the head line "WARNING" (of what I wonder?) "Hey I have seen your message before deleting from my post What is your goal while writing on your crappy thoughts?" That´s what I am talking about. What you saw was someone thinking about what they are saying, i.e. me. I realized that my wording was not conductive to a civilized discourse so I removed it and replaced the original text with one that was actually meant as a more or less friendly pointer to you. How about that? M. you have written to me " ignorant", and , you have used dick word against to me and after erasing of your thoughts you think that you're clean and faultless, you owe me an excuse and you're asking to me why I'm so offensive Are you kidding with me? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemoN Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 I think you guys should all calm down a bit, togi obviously is no native English speaker, so there could be a lot of misunderstandings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattias Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 you have written to me " ignorant", and , you have used dick word against to me and after erasing of your thoughts you think that you're clean and faultless, you owe me an excuse and you're asking to me why I'm so offensive Are you kidding with me? No but you see the wording "he is either completely IGNORANT as to how he is perceived when expressing his opinions in English" is not an insult. It is in fact an observation in support of you, i.e. you might not mean to be rude.... And being "a bit of a d**k" is in reference to some one that comes through as rude.... No more no less. M. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiram Sedai Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 how come realizing in my pants the qb when selecting wondrous soldiers? I wait with happy joy joy thoughts for italian opponent but always german. Matt is long gone. Long live the padlock. Hi Mom! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Mattias, ...sucks mean there is a problem in this area... Togi Um. Not when it's used in such a blanket statement. English ain't your first language, Togi, and I applaud you for being far better at it than I am at any other language, but please accept that in arguments about meanings, us native speakers might have an edge? You've stated your problem. You think it's serious. You've been told it's being addressed and possible workarounds. Why not leave it there? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadekster88 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Just let it go guys. His issue was addressed regarding QB and the AI's affinity for AT guns which will hopefully be taken care of via a patch. Going back and forth about what who meant what is not going to help anything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkEzra Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 AI is good while in-game actions but bad at force selections. Re the QB AI: I much appreciate your kinds words. There have been a lot of lessons learned since the release of CMx2. The CMBN QB AI is much improved from CMSF (Lord, how could it not!)... But it will never match a human. The AT Gun and other TOE issues is being looked at by BFC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futon river crossing Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Suffered a minor loss to the AI today - in a scenario So I think the AI is much improved! - A human opponent would have really kicked my ass though!! LOL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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