Cpl Steiner Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Not sure if this has been asked before (hell, I may even have asked it myself and forgotten) but I just saw a report on the News tonight in which a journalist accompanied a patrol of Iraqi Army troops supported by 2 US trainers. I think it was near Ramadi. Anyway, the Iraqi Army guys looked just like US troops except for the fact they were carrying AK47-style rifles instead of M4 carbines. Obviously they had been given loads of US kit such as helmets and knee-pads etc. but had been left with their own national weapons (probably for financial reasons if nothing else). I am wondering, how easy would it be to have the blue side in CM:SF equipped with soviet-style weapons such as AKs? In other words, take a normal US unit and substitute AKs etc. for their M4s. I am hoping this will be possible, either using existing OOBs or through some sort of mod. Obviously it would have to be a real substitution, affecting squad firepower, range, etc., and not some purely cosmetic fix. To my mind, if I was developing the game, I would have programmed in the weapons as separate entities that could be given to either side, just for the sake of future scalability and maintenance etc., so I am hopeful that this will be possible without too much work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 We've been praying to the wargame gods for inclusion of Red-on-Red battles in the game. That would give both sides AKs, though I suspect nobody is going to get to wear hand-me-down Desert Storm camou uniforms. I haven't seen photos of Iraqi troops in the modern design (ugly-arse) Stryker Brigade uniform types yet. Oh... but there might be uniform skin modding possibilities. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foobar Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 I hope to play some Iraq battles with CMSF. If it turns out that the units are not very realistic, I will still play pretend... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'Rogers Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 If it turns out that the units are not very realistic, I will still play pretend...Well this is really the center of all the "Can we play such and such battles with CM:SF ...". The more you are willing to pretend, the easier it will be. If you are willing to pretend enough we could probably mod the names enough to make a Civil War infantry game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General_solomon Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foobar Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 You're on!! I call Custer! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homo ferricus Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 "the Iraqi Army guys looked just like US troops except for the fact they were carrying AK47-style rifles instead of M4 carbines. Obviously they had been given loads of US kit such as helmets and knee-pads etc." well yes, but no. Most of the equipment the Iraqi National Guard is hand-me-downs form the US Army, i.e. 6-color desert camo, old MICH helmets usually with no covers, cheap outdated kneepads+elbow pads, usually little or no Flak jackets/body armor/combat vest/any kind of torso rig. Whereas modern US soldiers wear ACUPAT uniforms, with flak jackets, pouches, magazine holders and combat vests up the butt hole. Also all the portable radio/communications/logistics technology they hump around. Brand new updated equipment in every aspect. And the fact that they ride in Strykers and Bradleys instead of Dzik-9s and old jeeps. But besides that, yes they are almost exactly like the US troops 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Small point of clarification... the Iraqis wear a couple of different uniforms right now: 1. Copy of US 6 Color Desert - slightly different colors and made out of what appears to be 100% artificial fibers. I had a set of trousers that was significantly melted. Fun! 2. Copy of Jordanian Digital Desert - looks sorta like US Marines MARPAT to the untrained eye, but is in fact significantly different. 3. Urban Digital - blues and grays in a pattern that, again, to the untrained eye looks like US Marines. 4. Copy of US Woodland - not quite sure who is still wearing this, but Border Guards and some special forces type units have been known to wear them. 5. Unique Desert Pattern - this was worn by special Police forces. I don't think they are still wearing it. 6. US 3 Color Desert - various bits and pieces, sometimes actual US surplus, not always though. Ask again in 2 months and this list will likely change again That's the way the Iraqis liked to do things under Saddam and it appears old habits are hard to shake! Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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