MikoyanPT Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Looks like the Vshaped hull vehicles, with better survival chances to mines and explosive devices are arriving to Iraq and Afghanistan in crescent numbers. It would be nice to see them in CM.SF in a later add-on, It would be a change to the HUMVEE. The vehicles arriving to the front line are the big BUFFALO http://www.defense-update.com/products/b/buffalo.htm From the same company the smaller Cougar http://www.defense-update.com/products/c/cougar.htm And the smaller size (kind of a hummvee) south african Nyala http://www.defense-update.com/products/r/RG-31.htm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 It'd be good to see one of them in a module, even if the USMC or Brits don't use them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikoyanPT Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 Originally posted by Sequoia: It'd be good to see one of them in a module, even if the USMC or Brits don't use them. I think they are in fact using all tree models. Check the links, some orders have been delivered and are in use for a while, more orders on their way. Mostly they are used by anti IED units i supose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Originally posted by MikoyanPT: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Sequoia: It'd be good to see one of them in a module, even if the USMC or Brits don't use them. I think they are in fact using all tree models.</font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikoyanPT Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 Originally posted by Sergei: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MikoyanPT: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Sequoia: It'd be good to see one of them in a module, even if the USMC or Brits don't use them. I think they are in fact using all tree models.</font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 You mean three I assume? What I mean is that I presume the US Army has purchased them, but they will not be in the initial game. They could be added in the modules, but the first two modules are for the US Marines and the British Army, niether of which (I'm guessing) have them. What I'm hoping for is the possibility that we might get a couple more new US army vehicle in the modules even though they are not centered on the US Army. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikoyanPT Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 Three eheh, but i bet your portuguese is much worst than my english. In the cougar link they say the british got 100 cougars. In the buffalo link they say the marine corps is awaiting a batch os Cougars and Buffalo. But the three models are in use by the military in Iraq. I always forget that the different military branches of US forces are almost independent countries on their own. For me the Stryker brigade and the USMC are both US forces, army, navy , wathever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Originally posted by MikoyanPT: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Sergei: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MikoyanPT: I think they are in fact using all tree models.Wooden APC's? How novel! </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny_tanker Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Originally posted by MikoyanPT: Looks like the Vshaped hull vehicles, with better survival chances to mines and explosive devices are arriving to Iraq and Afghanistan in crescent numbers. It would be nice to see them in CM.SF in a later add-on, It would be a change to the HUMVEE. The vehicles arriving to the front line are the big BUFFALO http://www.defense-update.com/products/b/buffalo.htm From the same company the smaller Cougar http://www.defense-update.com/products/c/cougar.htm And the smaller size (kind of a hummvee) south african Nyala http://www.defense-update.com/products/r/RG-31.htm These vehicles have actually been in Iraq for a while now, over a year I think. The EOD teams just love them. The downside is the are still only mine resistant, and they are still just as vulnerable to EFP attacks as any other vehicle. They should defiantly be included in the Marine modual, since they have put in to purchase at least 3000 more of there favorite flavor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikoyanPT Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 Originally posted by Sergei: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MikoyanPT: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Sergei: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MikoyanPT: I think they are in fact using all tree models.Wooden APC's? How novel! </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazzi Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 I am sorry if this sounds dumb, but where is their V shape ? Seen the photos included in the articles, I couldn't figure out which section had a v-shape. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius359au Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Originally posted by Sergei: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MikoyanPT: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Sergei: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MikoyanPT: I think they are in fact using all tree models.Wooden APC's? How novel! </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikoyanPT Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 Originally posted by Fugazzi: I am sorry if this sounds dumb, but where is their V shape ? Seen the photos included in the articles, I couldn't figure out which section had a v-shape. The bottom of the hull or chassis, it resembles a v, like a boat, but the weels and other apendices make it hard to notice. It is suposed to deflect the blast of the mine away from the vehicle. In the Nyala link look at the pic with a nyala with a wheel blown off.Voilá, there it is, but all of them have a V shaped hull below the crew compartment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 They have a V-shaped (maybe not 'to the letter') bottom instead of a flat one, making mines less deadly to the men riding them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Originally posted by MikoyanPT: Humm, nice APC in the picture ! Does it come with reactive armour and air conditioning, or only open top coupe version available. It's the cavalry - the eyes and donkey ears of military. It may not kick ass, but the ass kicks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAI Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Mwuahahahaha.... Funniest pic ever.. Well, for this year at least Improvised Personnel Carrier 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikoyanPT Posted June 16, 2007 Author Share Posted June 16, 2007 All Jazzera showing some insurgent videos with Buffalo, Cougar and Nyala V shaped vehicles in combat. Looks like anti IED teams are becoming valuable targets. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b68_1181903435 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzermartin Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 Are these anti-IED vehicles any good? I think I saw a man flying in the air around 2:15. I'd hate that job. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikoyanPT Posted June 16, 2007 Author Share Posted June 16, 2007 I hope it wasn´t. The only thing they show that was disabled for sure was a good old humvee. They certainly have more chances than inside a uparmored humvee. The humvee wasn´t designed to sustain light weapons fire, and certainly not explosive attacks. Of course if the IED is big enough... it can kill anything. But i would like to see these new class of vehicles in a add on to Shock Force, as they are taking a major role in daily operations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 But are they attack vehicles? Because CMSF is not about occupation, it is about invasion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikoyanPT Posted June 16, 2007 Author Share Posted June 16, 2007 Is a Humvee a attack vehicle ? But it is currently the workhorse on Iraq and Afghanistan. I don´t want my men invading Syria in tin can humvee´s and taking IED in every road. And besides, these vehicles look sexy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 I doubt Humvee's will be replaced any time soon, as there's so many of them. These are specialist vehicles at this stage AIUI. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikoyanPT Posted June 16, 2007 Author Share Posted June 16, 2007 Originally posted by Sergei: I doubt Humvee's will be replaced any time soon, as there's so many of them. These are specialist vehicles at this stage AIUI. I agree. I think they are buying more humvees. It is a good utility vehicle, cheap and rugged. For many years from now, the option is ride a humvee or walk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 Some of us (me included) were spoiled by the amount of toys we got in the CM1 games. I know Battlefront is limiting things in CMX2 but I'm hoping if you include modules we'll get some uncommon vehicles to play with such as these. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzermartin Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 Sexy?? We have enough ugly vehicles with the stryker and the rest of the american bulky box like vehicles. I dont want these things included! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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