Timskorn Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I played the original CM way back when, and loved it. For some reason I've skipped everything in-between, but Shock Force looks like it will definitely get me back into it. Anyone remember M1 Tank Platoon by Microprose? I know these are two quite different games, but I've been waiting for a modern tank game for awhile, and the latest screenshot of SF conjured up some old memories of M1 (except extremely better looking than the polygon hell of M1). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Originally posted by Timskorn: I played the original CM way back when, and loved it. For some reason I've skipped everything in-between, but Shock Force looks like it will definitely get me back into it. Anyone remember M1 Tank Platoon by Microprose? I know these are two quite different games, but I've been waiting for a modern tank game for awhile, and the latest screenshot of SF conjured up some old memories of M1 (except extremely better looking than the polygon hell of M1). Watch what you say about my first love...the queen of 3D tactical gaming is not to be mocked openly. Nothing beat Muzzle Velocity for pure silly fun, though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timskorn Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 Hah, it's a loving mock, believe me. M1 is another one of those games that I would buy again if someone would simply give it a facelift. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Toleran Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Well, Steel Beasts is probably what you want then. There's even a pro version out for $125 that you can buy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Originally posted by Capt. Toleran: Well, Steel Beasts is probably what you want then. There's even a pro version out for $125 that you can buy. Doubtful. The original M-1 Tank Platoon was simplicity personified. And FUN. The sequel, M-1 Tank Platoon II, sucked in comparison. There are many old games that would benefit from a graphics upgrade but leave the simple physics models and game play alone. The same thing happened with Dynamix's Red Baron - the sequel, Red Baron II, had all the life sucked out of it. Instead of just an upgrade of the graphics, they tried to add oomph to the gameplay, and killed it. Microprose had some juicy games like KNIGHTS OF THE SKY that were fairly silly - WW I aerial combat where one hit equals a kill - but they had heart, especially the campaigns. KOTS let you challenge other aces to duels, let you track the leading aces of the war in comparison to yourself, spot enemy aces by their distinctive markings. Tons of fun. Steel Beasts is, if I understand it correctly, one of those hyper-realistic simulators for tanks - sorta like Fighting Falcon was for the F-16? With a manual thicker than the phone book and a keyboard control legend because just about every key on the board got used? Same thing happened with fantasy games; would have loved to see the original gold box AD&D games given a simple graphics upgrade, as the game play was pretty cool. That never happened either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luderbamsen Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: Doubtful. The original M-1 Tank Platoon was simplicity personified. And FUN. The sequel, M-1 Tank Platoon II, sucked in comparison. There are many old games that would benefit from a graphics upgrade but leave the simple physics models and game play alone. The same thing happened with Dynamix's Red Baron - the sequel, Red Baron II, had all the life sucked out of it. Instead of just an upgrade of the graphics, they tried to add oomph to the gameplay, and killed it. Microprose had some juicy games like KNIGHTS OF THE SKY that were fairly silly - WW I aerial combat where one hit equals a kill - but they had heart, especially the campaigns. KOTS let you challenge other aces to duels, let you track the leading aces of the war in comparison to yourself, spot enemy aces by their distinctive markings. Tons of fun. Steel Beasts is, if I understand it correctly, one of those hyper-realistic simulators for tanks - sorta like Fighting Falcon was for the F-16? With a manual thicker than the phone book and a keyboard control legend because just about every key on the board got used? Same thing happened with fantasy games; would have loved to see the original gold box AD&D games given a simple graphics upgrade, as the game play was pretty cool. That never happened either. Oh my fu... Did you scoop out my brain with an icecream spoon and put them down in your post? I agree a gazillion %! Ah, MicroProse! If there was ever a computer game brand that practically guaranteed superb gaming, that was it (and BFC of course). Did you ever play "Wings"? It was another silly WW1 flightsim with some very early 3D air combat, mixed with 2D strafing missions. Absolutely brilliant and stupendously simple. Respectfully luderbamsen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Imposter! What have you done with our beloved Dorosh McGrog? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luderbamsen Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Oh bugger, double post [ March 11, 2007, 12:07 PM: Message edited by: luderbamsen ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Luder - "ew" Londoner - I'll have him back in morning. Hawaii time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 SB Pro PE is very realistic but still very easy to play it has some very good vehicle specific tutorials. I would recommend you look at it Timskorn it will give you something to play around with till CMSF comes out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cid250 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Timskorn: I played the original CM way back when, and loved it. For some reason I've skipped everything in-between, but Shock Force looks like it will definitely get me back into it. Anyone remember M1 Tank Platoon by Microprose? I know these are two quite different games, but I've been waiting for a modern tank game for awhile, and the latest screenshot of SF conjured up some old memories of M1 (except extremely better looking than the polygon hell of M1). Watch what you say about my first love...the queen of 3D tactical gaming is not to be mocked openly. Nothing beat Muzzle Velocity for pure silly fun, though. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undead reindeer cavalry Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 M1 Tank Platoon was a great game. the only real weakness was that it was a bit too easy. i recall that i had 200:1 kill ratios and that was before i found out that you could give commands to the support units (oh boy was i amazed when i discovered that feature). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undead reindeer cavalry Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 another quite good game ahead of its time was Campaign. you had a strategic/operational level map in which you gave commands to units and when a battle took place you could command individual vehicles in 3D battles. back then it was real impressive, the whole scale and detailed stuff like seeing CAS planes in the 3D battles. strategic level: battle, tactical overview: battle,commanding an individual vehicle: control stuff within battle: some vehicle stats: unit stats: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undead reindeer cavalry Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Originally posted by Cid250: Which game is depicted in this box?. it's Muzzle Velocity like mr Dorosh wrote in the passage which you quoted somehow i missed that game, looks like it was an improved version of Campaign 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timskorn Posted March 9, 2007 Author Share Posted March 9, 2007 I also was thinking Muzzle Velocity looked similar to WWIIOnline. I'll have to check out SB though, maybe download a demo if they have one out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undead reindeer cavalry Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Finnish Defence Forces conscripts training in Steel Beasts: some videos. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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