z1812 Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Hi All, As a report it seems that the strykers cannot see through smoke. I had 3 Stryker MGS attack a single T-72. I moved them up a rise and before going to hull down position fired smoke. They moved into position perfectly. But they did not see the t-72's or did not fire on them. The t-72 did not move. I thought i would just let the smoke clear and see what happened. The strykers did fire half heartedly but were all killed. I must conclude, since the Strykers fired after the smoke cleared, that they could not see through the smoke. Regards John 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin.Rommel Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 The stryker's smoke is different from the other's ,it can block the thermal sight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z1812 Posted December 22, 2007 Author Share Posted December 22, 2007 Hi All the following is directly from BFC's blog on Strykers: " Smoke grenade launchers attached to the RWS can be fired to interfere with various enemy threats. The thermal imager allows the Stryker crew to see through the smoke it generates." From the horses mouth. Regards John 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_2 Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 I experienced the same thing in the first campaign mission. Not only the strikers the M1A1SA that was with 2x Strykers. All 3 vehicles had their LOS blocked when one of the strykers popped smoke. They were all unable to area target a building 20m away. Target line showed color change to blocked LOS as soon as it hit the smoke 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Don't the Strykers use IR blocking smoke? Regards, Ken 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewood Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Search is your friend http://www.battlefront.com/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=52;t=002926 A whole discussion on it, but no real clarification from BFC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z1812 Posted December 22, 2007 Author Share Posted December 22, 2007 Hi All, Thanks for the link wood. I wonder why BFC would not comment or clarify? regards John 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hev Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 because when ever we have a genuine question that would help shed some light BFC remove all the light switches! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewood Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Z, you were too nice in your initial post so Steve looked in and assumed everything was OK. Try a swear word. Mix it up a little. Get a beta tester PO'ed at you. He may hear the noise and look in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireship4 Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 I can confirm that none of my units can see through smoke, whether they are IR equipped or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rune Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Depends on whose smoke it is. US Smoke grenades also are IR blockers. The Marine Corps Systems Command (MCSC), Program Manager for Ammunition, desires the acquisition and qualification of non-development improvements to the existing 66mm, M76 Infrared (IR) Smoke Grenade. The improved smoke grenade shall contain energetic components that meet U.S. environmental standards both before and after initiation of the smoke grenade as well as producing visual and IR screening capability. The developed grenade shall have the capability of being loaded, fired and unloaded from the standard U.S. ?M6 Type?66mm smoke grenade launchers. No modification to the grenade launchers is permissible. It is desired that the contractor: (1) Have a non-developmental 66mm IR Smoke Grenade designed to demonstrate and produce a cloud capable of obstructing a host vehicle from threat visual and IR optics; (2) The 66mm IR Smoke Grenade must have the capability to function with no degradation in performance under environmental conditions of hot, cold, and ambient temperatures when fired; (3) Have the capability of firing from the existing M6 ?Type? 66mm vehicle mounted Grenade Dischargers and not alter the transportation and storage requirements of utilizing vehicles; (4) Have the capability to meet all U. S. Government and Military storage requirements / restrictions normally imposed on storage of similar munitions; (5) Have existing production tooling / line capable of producing approximately 16,000 Grenades per month after initial start up; (6) Have the technical expertise and facilities to conduct standard NATO safety, Insensitive Munitions (IM), transportation, hazard classification, environmental and HERO/ESD tests prior to delivery of qualification samples. The Sources Sought Number is M67854-04-R-1051. Interested Parties should reply by submitting a written proposal no later than 30 April 2004 to Commanding General, Marine Corps Systems Command, Attn: Code 2041, 2200 Lester Street, Quantico, VA. 22134. Questions may be submitted in writing to the above address, or email to wrightdm@mcsc.usmc.mil. Interested Parties who are willing to provide test assets of a proposed design, at no cost to the USMC for testing should so indicate in the submitted white paper. No further information is available from the Procuring Office. Rune 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z1812 Posted December 23, 2007 Author Share Posted December 23, 2007 Hi All, I am not interested in being caught up in any controversies concerning this game. My question is simple. Can a Stryker in this game see through its own smoke or not. I only want to know so I can play the game accordingly. regards John 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin.Rommel Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 The answer is no~ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z1812 Posted December 23, 2007 Author Share Posted December 23, 2007 Hi All, Thanks for taking the time to answer Erwin. But as BFC says in their Stryker blog. " Smoke grenade launchers attached to the RWS can be fired to interfere with various enemy threats. The thermal imager allows the Stryker crew to see through the smoke it generates." So, in view of the above, it really would be nice to have Battlefront confirm the effects of smoke to the Stryker. Regards John 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taki Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Strykers are Blinded in the Game. Ecspesialy the MGS Strykers. The dont see anything. Smoked or not. Dont matter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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