yunfat Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Does anyone use these cards to play CMBB? I was thinking of upgrading my GeForce4 MX (which doesnt seem to work with CM) which came with my Dual Ghz quicksilver model. Does anyone know of any issues with these cards and my setup? I am selling the computer with my original Radeon that works great with CM and I dont want to get "stuck". I am leaning toward getting the Radeon 8500. Thanks in advance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrullenhaft Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 It looks like some people have had problems with these video cards, but it may be dependent on which drivers you have and some other factors: Psychadelic colors with Radeon 9000. Some problems with the newest Radeons on the Mac. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Jones Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 I have a Raedon 8500 in my PC, it works great, other than no fog. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarmo Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Overall, 8500 is the better faster card. But dont know which works better or worse with CM. Both have been problem with some users I think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleader Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 Remember though, with the ATI card you lose all fog in CMBO and CMBB. I have a 9000 Pro card in XP, and don't really miss the fog thing...except when I play fog scenarios that is 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmead Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 ATI on a Mac does offer fog and smoke graphics. Unfortunately, ATI has not seen fit to include that functionality in their MSW drivers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.Tankersley Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 I have a Radeon 8500 Mac Edition. It supports fog. BUT, it does NOT support transparent smoke. Basically, all smoke and dust effects (gun blasts, artillery explosions, smoke from fire, dust from collapsed buildings) is completely opaque (looks like "Fast, Compatible Smoke" is turned on even when it isn't. On the whole, though, I like the card. The smoke is annoying, mainly because if you're in a low camera view the smoke of a gun blast can completely obscure what's going on for several seconds. But the textures are very nice and performance is crisp. I still live in hope that someday ATI will fix the problem (I assume it's driver related) but I'm not holding my breath. FYI, I was using an old Radeon Rage Orion prior to this. It supported transparent smoke just fine; unfortunately it was lacking in texture memory (major downsampling) and framerate was low. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonm Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 Perhaps a fix (for the 9000 anyway). Look at Version Tracker. Supposedly for OS's 9.2.1 - 10.2.2 (not 10.2.3). Caveat Emptor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yunfat Posted January 20, 2003 Author Share Posted January 20, 2003 Originally posted by L.Tankersley: I have a Radeon 8500 Mac Edition. It supports fog. BUT, it does NOT support transparent smoke. Basically, all smoke and dust effects (gun blasts, artillery explosions, smoke from fire, dust from collapsed buildings) is completely opaque (looks like "Fast, Compatible Smoke" is turned on even when it isn't. On the whole, though, I like the card. The smoke is annoying, mainly because if you're in a low camera view the smoke of a gun blast can completely obscure what's going on for several seconds. But the textures are very nice and performance is crisp. I still live in hope that someday ATI will fix the problem (I assume it's driver related) but I'm not holding my breath. FYI, I was using an old Radeon Rage Orion prior to this. It supported transparent smoke just fine; unfortunately it was lacking in texture memory (major downsampling) and framerate was low.I find it odd that my original Mac Radeon (pre-7000) supports transparent smoke just fine, and your 8500 does not. Its hard to believe that the more advanced card wouldn't have all the features as my old Radeon. I am running 9.2.2 on a G4 500 AGP. I really need to sell the computer, but if I lose transparency in CMBB I will just have to bite the bullet and keep the machine (a $700 CMBB rig, yay!). These reports of Radeon and 8500's and 9000 Pro's not supporting transparency are disturbing. Perhaps official battlefront commentary? Do you think they will notice if I do a full install of CMBB at my Apple Store? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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