Bruno Weiss Posted October 26, 2002 Share Posted October 26, 2002 Now I just noticed somefink. Smoke from burning vehicles does not follow the reported wind direction. In a QB I have going, the wind conditions are Breezy, ENE direction, but there is a burning wreck on the field who's smoke is blowing in a WSW direction? What's up with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Peg Posted October 26, 2002 Share Posted October 26, 2002 Wind direction is the direction it is blowing from not blowing in, so wind blowing from the ENE will blow smoke WSW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaBellum Posted October 26, 2002 Share Posted October 26, 2002 Ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 Jeez, it's just incredible that grown men wouldn't already know that. It's a sad comment on the educational system. [shakes head in sad amazement] Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzman Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 Originally posted by Michael emrys: Jeez, it's just incredible that grown men wouldn't already know that. It's a sad comment on the educational system. [shakes head in sad amazement] MichaelMan, I am 17 and I know that about wind direction lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treeburst155 Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 I didn't learn that until I began messing around with Microsoft Flight Simulator 2000. They must have taught that during one of my many 60 day truancy spells. Besides, it's a back-assward thing anyway. Wind should be blowing north, not "out of the south". I mean, so what if the wind is coming out of the south. Which way is it going? What if it comes out of the south and turns real quick? :eek: Treeburst155 out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 Originally posted by Treeburst155: What if it comes out of the south and turns real quick?Then it will be blowing out of the north. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 Look, it's just a convention. One of those things that you are supposed to learn in school, like the way words are spelled (hint, hint). By having everyone learn and use the same conventions, we are able to communicate with each other and know what each other are talking about. It's like the Fahrenheit scale having the boiling point of water at 212° at sea level. That may be arbitrary, but as long as we are agreed on that it works. Thus, a long time ago someone, most likely a sailor, decided it was interesting to know which way the wind was blowing from and there hasn't been sufficient reason since then to go through the agony of changing the system. Just think of it as a reminder which way not to piss. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 Fahrenheit? What the hell's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treeburst155 Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 Fahrenheit is a temperature scale invented by some guy who wanted to know where the wind was coming from, rather than where it was going. He stuck his finger in some boiling water at sea level and said, "Ouch, this water must be exactly 212 degrees." People ask this guy where he is going, and he doesn't know. He just knows where he is coming from and that his finger is sure to get burned in 212 degree water. I think he had something to do with inches, feet, and yards too. Treeburst155 out. [ October 27, 2002, 01:40 AM: Message edited by: Treeburst155 ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie the Toad Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 What about the 'stadium effect'? You know, when the streamers on the goal posts at one end of the field are blowing one way, and at the other end are blowing the opposite way. So if there were streamers in the middle of the field which way would they be blowing? Finger er.. toe in the wind .... Toad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 Is this one of those questions like what is the sound of one hand clapping? How soon are we getting stadia in CM? Michael [ October 27, 2002, 01:56 AM: Message edited by: Michael emrys ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrewolf Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 upwind and downwind, which is blowing toward or away ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl Carrot Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 You are upwind of an object if the wind hits you first. So if you are out hunting being upwind is a bad idea, as the wind will carry your scent to the quarry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie the Toad Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 And then there is leeward and windward. But that's another game. Aaarrghh ..... Toad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Manuel Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 Port and Starboard- now that took my thick skull awhile to memorize...I just think to myself that the 1st letters are alphabetical (P, then S) and you read from Left 1st then Right. Louie- why not bring a flag to mid field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Weiss Posted October 27, 2002 Author Share Posted October 27, 2002 Yeah yeah, ever one's a comedian. So where's it at in the manual? Haven't been through it yet page by page, but I don't see anything in the index or contents on wind. Does it change direction during the game, or vary in degree which might effect LOS and fire spread? Is it (ENE), in the lil environment window infact a statement on direction from? (Did BTS say that, or ever one is just assuming?). The local weather stations or news services tend to present it both ways, as in the wind direction is ENE (meaning from), or the wind direction is blowing ENE, (meaning to). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Salt Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 Originally posted by Silvio Manuel: Port and Starboard- now that took my thick skull awhile to memorize...I just think to myself that the 1st letters are alphabetical (P, then S) and you read from Left 1st then Right. Mr. Picky hopes that everyone is aware that Port and Starboard are not exactly the same as Left and Right. Just ask a rower to hold up his starboard hand. All the best, John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Salt Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 Originally posted by Bruno Weiss: [snips]Is it (ENE), in the lil environment window infact a statement on direction from? (Did BTS say that, or ever one is just assuming?). I think everyone is assuming that BTS are following the well-established, centuries-old and undisputed convention. In much the same way, I assume that they have not chosen to redefine the metre, the second or the degree Celsius. Originally posted by Bruno Weiss: [ The local weather stations or news services tend to present it both ways, as in the wind direction is ENE (meaning from), or the wind direction is blowing ENE, (meaning to).What a strange thing for them to do. This reminds me of the use of the word "flammable" on warning markings, on the assumption that some people were unaware of the conventional meaning of "inflammable". All the best, John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Canuck Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 Originally posted by Cpl Carrot: You are upwind of an object if the wind hits you first. So if you are out hunting being upwind is a bad idea, as the wind will carry your scent to the quarry.In other words, hunt with "the wind in your face", not "at your back". .... KC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtweasle Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows" -Bob Dylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Weiss Posted October 27, 2002 Author Share Posted October 27, 2002 John D Salt wrote: I think everyone is assuming that BTS are following the well-established, centuries-old and undisputed convention. Is that how the Russians indicated wind direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Salt Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 Originally posted by Bruno Weiss: John D Salt wrote: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />I think everyone is assuming that BTS are following the well-established, centuries-old and undisputed convention. Is that how the Russians indicated wind direction?</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaBellum Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 Looks like we have a new entry to the CMBB FAQ. Just in case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Malan Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 Originally posted by Silvio Manuel: Port and Starboard- now that took my thick skull awhile to memorize...I just think to myself that the 1st letters are alphabetical (P, then S) and you read from Left 1st then Right. Louie- why not bring a flag to mid field?Easier way to remember than that - Port = Left (same number of letters, nothing else does) And the F scale isn't arbitrary, Old Fahrenheit took the coldest night he knew, called it zero, took the hottest day and called it 100. Rest is just extrapolation (IIRC what I was taught in school). Now, if you want difficult units, try engineering in US/Imperial - slugs, poundals, gallons (both kinds) the mechanical equivalent of heat, etc. If I want to be flippant, I will ask for answers in cubic furlongs per fortnight, (or occasionally furlongs per cubic fortnight, but that tends to be when drunk!). Confuses the younger engineers (I just caught the UK education system before it went metric!). Next week, the role of rods, poles and perches in a caring society! [ October 27, 2002, 01:59 PM: Message edited by: Sailor Malan ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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