Lawyer Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 First, US halftracks are GREAT in all CM versions because the .50 gun is a wonderful weapon. Sixth, I've got a book on US halftracks that says a big benefit in producing them quickly was the ability to use proven standard civilian truck parts. As the US started its war build-up late, that was a big factor in producing AFV's quickly. They stopped building them when full tracked AFV production picked up in 1943, I believe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Russian Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Originally posted by MikeyD: Real life was like in the game. Either nothing from multiple penetrations or KABOOM (the troop seat-backs were actually the vehicle gas tanks)! The BMP was the same way. Only in it the back doors and the seat backs were fuel tanks. That had to make the guys feel real secure. Panther Commander 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spears Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 quote: The BMP was the same way. Only in it the back doors and the seat backs were fuel tanks. That had to make the guys feel real secure. Panther Commander To make the inf feel secure u say ? they made them exit by climbing out the TOP hatches TOP of the bmp, safety for who and what agin please. Imagins all those targets, yum yum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Apparently, the fuel contained in the tanks is a good radiation absorber, which is great when you're doing what the BMP was designed for - supporting an armoured breakthrough across a nuclear scarred battlefield with your troops fighting mounted. However, when you're fighting a conventional war in a vehicle with armour only slightly more resiliant than a wet tea towel and a propensity for the exit bursting into flames, it kind of sucks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 And let's not forget the good-old U.S. M113 with its gas tank against the left-rear aluminum armor hull wall (which probably couldn't stop an AK round)... until they moved the fuel - due to safetly considerations - to either side of the rear exit, as well! APC/halftrack doctrine is fun. Don't ride in it if you're likely to run over a mine, and don't be inside it if you're likely to be shot at... but otherwise, here's some armor protection for you! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrich0000 Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 I have also had good luck moving halftracks forward via screened routes and using them in larger villages and other places where I can keyhole with the MG. Sort of like AT guns but against infantry. That .50 on the US halftrack is an excellent weapon for supporting your infantry, and small arms don't seem to do much to the HT. Just remember to displace before the enemy ground pounders get into grenade range. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrich0000 Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Originally posted by Spears: quote: The BMP was the same way. Only in it the back doors and the seat backs were fuel tanks. That had to make the guys feel real secure. Panther Commander To make the inf feel secure u say ? they made them exit by climbing out the TOP hatches TOP of the bmp, safety for who and what agin please. Imagins all those targets, yum yum. No top hatches on a BMP that I know of? I believe you are referring to the BTR-50 and 60 series. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 There are top hatches on the BMP, at least for the BMP1 This photo was taken by dangling the camera in through one of the top hatches. It's the left hand side of the BMP looking forward to the driver's and commander's position. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spears Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Rule of war i remember GO UNDER IT if u cant GO ROUND IT `````` GO THROUGH IT LASTLY GO OVER IT........ so ruskies emptied out tops clever ey ?!?!?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 BMP's had top and rear exit hatches - see http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/bmp-1.htm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrich0000 Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Okie doke... I yield to your superior knowlege. In this instance. This time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spears Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Bit off the point, but why did they empty out the tops. I know russians dont exactly like each other, but this is going a bit far. Especially when the idea is to stay alive i belive? Not just BMP the BTR`s also. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Possibly because htey didnt' have a surefire way of waterproofing the doors for the earlier BTR's? And also because it's quicker - you can get 4 ppl out the top at a time, and virtually all they have to do is stand, climb and jump. The rear doors are more constrictive when in full kit - you'd be lucky to get 2 guys out at a time, packs might catch on the door frame as they bend over, and everyone except the rear 2 passengers has to climb over the seats to get to them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebulon Pleasure Beast Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 The BMP-1 and BMP-2 have two rear exit doors, the top hatches are meant for mounted infantry to fire RPGs and Strelas and such from, IIRC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted June 19, 2004 Share Posted June 19, 2004 BMP 1 with a bunch of Finns in it and on it. Top hatches large enough for exiting, but designed for mounted combat. But we are drifting away from the halftrack thing here... Cheerio Dandelion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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