Grimly Fiendish Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Any opinions on this book by Rick Atkinson, 2002? Not a a source for scenarios or anything quite that crazy---just for getting a sense of the theater and a feel for the ebb and flow of events. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rune Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 I have it and have used it as a source for scenarios. A lot of his materials come from the Army's Green Books, so if you do not own them, then grab the book immediately and enjoy it. Rune 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugged Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Originally posted by Dave Stockhoff: Any opinions on this book by Rick Atkinson, 2002? Not a a source for scenarios or anything quite that crazy---just for getting a sense of the theater and a feel for the ebb and flow of events. This book was discussed extensively here, a search of the CMAK forum will find a good discussion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Oh dear God. Bugged - look at yourself! What have you become? (Good book BTW. There aren't that many covering the campaign in NWA, and this one does a good job. I'm looking forward to his subsequent volumes "An Army At Breakfast Time" about the Germans, "An Army at Smoko" about the Australians, "An Army at Tea" about the British, "An Army at Siesta" about the Finns, "An Army Eh" aboot the Canadians, etc.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugged Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Originally posted by JonS: Oh dear God. Bugged - look at yourself! What have you become? (Good book BTW. There aren't that many covering the campaign in NWA, and this one does a good job. I'm looking forward to his subsequent volumes "An Army At Breakfast Time" about the Germans, "An Army at Smoko" about the Australians, "An Army at Tea" about the British, "An Army at Siesta" about the Finns, "An Army Eh" aboot the Canadians, etc.) That post wasn't from me. Somebody I know was too lazy to logout of my computer and log back in as himself before posting. Sheesh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Oh, well in that case ... MY COMMENT STILL STANDS! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimly Fiendish Posted February 14, 2006 Author Share Posted February 14, 2006 Thanks everybody! I realized after I posted that the book was probably chewed over here years ago. At any rate it's out in paperback, for those who are as cheap as I am. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Originally posted by Bugged: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JonS: Oh dear God. Bugged - look at yourself! What have you become? (Good book BTW. There aren't that many covering the campaign in NWA, and this one does a good job. I'm looking forward to his subsequent volumes "An Army At Breakfast Time" about the Germans, "An Army at Smoko" about the Australians, "An Army at Tea" about the British, "An Army at Siesta" about the Finns, "An Army Eh" aboot the Canadians, etc.) That post wasn't from me. Somebody I know was too lazy to logout of my computer and log back in as himself before posting. Sheesh. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David I Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 It's still a damned good book, and unlike many books on military history - well written. DavidI 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juan_gigante Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Has anyone heard about the sequels? It was intended to be a trilogy, with books about the Italian theater and the NW Europe Theater. IIRC, the Italy one was supposed to be coming up soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Originally posted by juan_gigante: Has anyone heard about the sequels? It was intended to be a trilogy, with books about the Italian theater and the NW Europe Theater. IIRC, the Italy one was supposed to be coming up soon. I think maybe they got put on hold when he was in Iraq with the Screaming Eagles? Pretty good book came out of that, too, incidentally. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagwyn Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Buggy: Are you and Grog messing around? I thought you were over him? Tag 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Originally posted by Tagwyn: Buggy: Are you and Grog messing around? I thought you were over him? Tag And what's this got to do with you? Mace 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Interesting Book, My inspiration for Tiger Valley... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Originally posted by Tagwyn: Buggy: Are you and Grog messing around? I thought you were over him? Tag Eh, over him, under him, bent over the kitchen table. Same thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Enigma Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 question on green books, from previous asking i know there the 'offical histories'. Can they be purchased? any idea what the name is for the British ones? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Originally posted by the_enigma: question on green books, from previous asking i know there the 'offical histories'. Can they be purchased?They are available online, I think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Yes, the Greenbooks are mostly online. Try "Ibiblio", "Hyper War", and "CMH". Also, I understand they are available - somewhere - for purchase on a number of CDs. British Official Histories 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rune Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Go here: http://bookstore.gpo.gov/wwii/ I own the combat CDs, cost is 23.00 for a 4 CD set which is all 7 combat volumes of the European-mediterranean-Middle East Theaters of Operations. They obviously have all the other sets if you are interested. Rune 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Enigma Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 thanks for the info and links, checking the sites out now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Originally posted by Dave Stockhoff: Any opinions on this book by Rick Atkinson, 2002? Not a a source for scenarios or anything quite that crazy---just for getting a sense of the theater and a feel for the ebb and flow of events. Excellent. I just hope the two books he plans to write about Italy and the ETO will be as good. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by juan_gigante: Has anyone heard about the sequels? It was intended to be a trilogy, with books about the Italian theater and the NW Europe Theater. IIRC, the Italy one was supposed to be coming up soon. I think maybe they got put on hold when he was in Iraq with the Screaming Eagles? Pretty good book came out of that, too, incidentally. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakthrough Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Excellent book. Much better then the CMH official history.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Originally posted by Breakthrough: Excellent book. Much better then the CMH official history.. If you mean the Green Book Volume covering Torch, I'd say that depends on what you are looking for. The Green Book is more thorough and detailed, and with much better maps. Atkinson is better as literature, i.e., a more "fun" read as he gives it more narrative sense. He also includes some bits of information missing in the earlier account. Probably the two books are best read together. They are complimentary. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philippe Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 I've only skimmed a bit of Army at Dawn, but I have a few initial comments based on a quick, bleary-eyed reading. It's very good. From what I've read so far he certainly deserved his Pullitzer. It's quite readable, and keeps me up at night long after I should have turned out the lights. On the downside, he suffers by comparison with Keegan (but who wouldn't). I stumbled on one of Atkinson's purple passages last night (the one that gives the book its title) and it wasn't out of place, but it stuck out in the text and seemed quite labored. Keegan does it effortlessly: his purple passages are more restrained and feel like an integral part of the narrative. I read parts of the chapter in Six Armies that describes his childhood to my girlfriend, and she liked it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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