GreenAsJade Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 The target line for bunkers sometimes reports "Hull down". It doesn't say "MG blocked" though. Can bunkers shoot at targets to which they are hull down? What effect does being hull down have - does it reduce the chance of the enemy hitting the bunker? Ta, GaJ. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walpurgis nacht Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 Hull down decreases the % chance to hit the bunker. It doesn't block the MG. If ever the MG is blocked you will get the "mg blocked" when playing around with the LOS tool on hull down spots. It is only a concern with AFVs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMplayer Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 Seems odd since its precisely the firing slit that you need to hit to take out a bunker. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walpurgis nacht Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 very interesting. I just setup a little test to double-check the obvious, and I'm glad I did. You can have your bunker hull-down from every possible forward direction and it means nothing! % to hit is the same. Following CMplayer's logic it makes sense, but why then does the engine bother to allow them to be placed "hull-down" to begin with? It doesn't add up. No detail in this game is purely cosmetic, so I'm surprised by this. I'll ask the authorities about this one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 As I understand it, every vehicle in CM (and Bunkers are treated as immobile vehicles) has 2 centers, one for the hull and another for the weapon. A Bunker probably has its centers so close together (could be only one) that you get both the hull down and ability to fire. Just a guess 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMplayer Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 Originally posted by Walpurgis Night: No detail in this game is purely cosmetic, Some details are just unintended side effects, like this case I believe. But there are indeed merely cosmetic details. In the AAR screen, the distinction between number of men KIA and number wounded is just meaningless fluff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoofyStance Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 Originally posted by CMplayer: Seems odd since its precisely the firing slit that you need to hit to take out a bunker. A large-caliber artillery shell won't knock out a bunker? I'd think a direct top hit by a 300mm rocket would have SOME effect ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMplayer Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 Originally posted by GoofyStance: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by CMplayer: Seems odd since its precisely the firing slit that you need to hit to take out a bunker. A large-caliber artillery shell won't knock out a bunker? I'd think a direct top hit by a 300mm rocket would have SOME effect ... </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brent Pollock Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 First time I saw a CM bunker burn was from a direct rocket OBA round. Second time was from a FT attack from the side: blowed up real good! You don't have to deliver the nasty stuff through the firing slit. Originally posted by GoofyStance: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by CMplayer: Seems odd since its precisely the firing slit that you need to hit to take out a bunker. A large-caliber artillery shell won't knock out a bunker? I'd think a direct top hit by a 300mm rocket would have SOME effect ... </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 Yup, the Churchill ARVE Flying dustbin round blows up bunkers real good too! Any side, any angle, all it has to do it hit the thing with that lazy arcing trajectory. Actually, I've seen a near miss catch a wood bunker on fire sometimes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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