John Kettler Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 See the gallery section here: http://www.ww2incolor.com/ Happy viewing! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joethejet Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Very cool. Thanks. It really makes a difference when you can see what things look like in color. You get so used to seeing things in B&W from WWII, that you forget that it wasn't really in B&W!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Somehow when you see this stuff in color it looks like a bad 1960s movie Interesting in this picture, the halftrack's 'olive drab' but the TD looks distinctly more 'green'. Something for hobbyists (and modders) to consider. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 MikeyD, In my AFV-G2 magazine days, there used to be paint chips in each issue matched as exactly as possible, using Floquil colors, to the various AFV base and camouflage colors. I remember marveling over how green and intense OD was, but the commentary noted the rapidity with which it bleached and chalked, especially in hot climes. The halftrack looks decidedly war weary, whereas the Hellcat looks more like a relatively recent arrival to the field. There was inter batch variation in precise paint color parameters, too. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 joethejet, You're welcome! Have you seen any of the History Channel series World War 2 in Color or the PBS series Perilous Fight, also in color? If not, you're missing out. The often pristine footage has a clarity, immersiveness and sense of personal presence which is simply astounding. An entirely different experience than seeing things in black and white! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 That's a neat site there John. Problem - modder point of view now - is that one cannot really trust the colours of photos. Meaning the shade they display is not necessarily the shades your eyes would have detected if you were on the spot. Sepp Dietrichs uniform is a telling example. That series of photos from his birthday (samples of the series are present on the site) prompted an artist to make paintings of Dietrich with that glowing, radiant jade-green uniform. But in fact it is merely a light effect and a less-than-super lens. So it's tricky. One thing that is very well displayed is the mass use of foreign uniforms in the German army. I see Polish and Czech re-cuts in many photos here. Cheerio Dandelion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Originally posted by MikeyD: Somehow when you see this stuff in color it looks like a bad 1960s movie Interesting in this picture, the halftrack's 'olive drab' but the TD looks distinctly more 'green'. Something for hobbyists (and modders) to consider. Given there is no provenance listed for those photos, there is a chance that picture in particular is a shot of re-enactors. Fort Indiantown Gap draws collections of soldiers numbering in the hundreds, along with armor and restored vehicles. The color as well as some other details in the photo suggest a post war origin. I notice he has stolen photos from my site - I certainly never gave him permission. I think they are all public domain but they are certainly ones that I scanned and reproduced. The captions are uninformed as well. Nonetheless I snagged all the German ones for my hard drive. I see there are "contemporary" photos listed there - in the sense they are using, meaning modern photos of restored WW II kit. Oh, the Russian photos are well done too...I've never seen the VE Day parade pics in colour before -didn't know they existed, especially the one with the German standarten being readied for the scrapheap/bonfire/whatever they did with them. [ February 10, 2006, 02:47 PM: Message edited by: Michael Dorosh ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David I Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 John, Thanks for sharing. Very cool indeed. DavidI 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Originally posted by David I: John, Thanks for sharing. Very cool indeed. DavidI Just to be thorougly inspid: http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=019102 I'll point out that in actual point of fact, Micheal (sic) Wittman posted the link two days ago.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted February 11, 2006 Author Share Posted February 11, 2006 Michael Dorosh, To be "thorougly inspid" back, I hope you're as acknowledging of me when I get something right. Getting you to concede a point is much tougher than pulling teeth on an unanaesthetized sabertooth cat. From what I've seen, you systematically ignore inconvenient responses while worrying aspects that annoy you with more enthusiasm than a terrier on speed shaking a rat. All hail to the man who got there first with the link! I make it a point of never knowingly claiming credit for what others have done. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmavis Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 I like the title for this photo. A bit of an understatement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted February 11, 2006 Author Share Posted February 11, 2006 Shmavis, Since my knowledge of German rank insignia is small at best, am going to go out on a limb and guess that he's a general, probably a famous one at that. The Iron Cross is impossible to miss, he's sporting epaulettes of a sort, and what I believe are red collar tabs for the General Staff. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted February 11, 2006 Author Share Posted February 11, 2006 Though obviously posed (note plethora of sniper meat), this one beautifully shows what hot sun and dust do to OD paint. The demijohn is clearly the real fuel for the crew! http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/us_army/SHERMAN Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joethejet Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Doesn't matter to me who posted it first, but I'm really glad John posted it to the forum I tend to look at! I have not seen those series, but I will keep an eye out. Having seen so many in B&W, I look forward to seeing in color. Is this what you're talking about: http://store.aetv.com/html/product/index.jhtml?id=42760 Surprising that there weren't more color made sooner after the war? Jet [ February 13, 2006, 01:05 PM: Message edited by: joethejet ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Originally posted by joethejet: Doesn't matter to me who posted it first, but I'm really glad John posted it to the forum I tend to look at! I have not seen those series, but I will keep an eye out. Having seen so many in B&W, I look forward to seeing in color. Surprising that there weren't more color made sooner after the war? Jet There were tons made after the war. Check an archives sometime. Most were never published. Most were of boring things like kid's birthday parties, trees, stuff like that. The war being over, there wasn't much call for military photos... Trouble was in expense - hence relative lack of colour photos - especially "candid" colour photos - until well after WW II. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David I Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 JohnK, Right you are. Famous German General. That's a Knights Cross with Oak Leaf clusters worn at his throat. Iron Class 1st class would be worn in center of left pocket (or there abouts for tunics that did not have pockets such as the Flieger Blouse or the Pz Wrap_around). Iron Cross 2nd class was typically worn as a ribbon in the next to top button hole (or ribbion bar on left breast). As to the officer in question; here's some hints: Commanded a Pz Army, as part of Army Group Center, in the invasion of Russia, later became Inspector General Heer, was fired a couple of times by Hitler because he argued with him. Initials H.G. Very famous indeed, even ended up in the learics of a song called "Roads to Moscow" by Al Stewart. A song, by the way, that should touch the heart or nerve of every CM'er on the forum. DavidI 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletRat Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Heinz Guderian. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted February 14, 2006 Author Share Posted February 14, 2006 joethejet, Yes, that's one; the other's the Perilous Fight series on PBS. There may be others. David I, Boy, do I feel stupid! Couldn't even recognize Guderian! (turns red and skulks off) Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmavis Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Oh, I'm sorry, people. I wasn't posting the photo link as a quiz for everyone. I really did think that it was funny that Guderian was casually labelled a "German general". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted February 14, 2006 Author Share Posted February 14, 2006 Shmavis, No apology needed. Am just embarrassed. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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