David I Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 I'm playing as the Fallschirmjagers in "Hunters in the Orchard". One of my units is an "Elite" rated sniper. So far the sorry SOB hasn't fired a single shot. He has a Aussie squad 74 meters away and when I target them it shows that they are 41% exposed. For three turns I targeted them and he wouldn't shoot, so I targeted a Bofors gun at 90 meters with 0% exposure, still wouldn't shoot. I retargeted the original squad and two more turns went by without hime firing a shot. What am I doing wrong? I'm about to have him fix bayonet and do a solo banzai charge on the Bofors! Elite my butt. Do I have the only conscientious objector in the German Army? DavidI 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stikkypixie Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Originally posted by David I: I'm playing as the Fallschirmjagers in "Hunters in the Orchard". One of my units is an "Elite" rated sniper. So far the sorry SOB hasn't fired a single shot. He has a Aussie squad 74 meters away and when I target them it shows that they are 41% exposed. For three turns I targeted them and he wouldn't shoot, so I targeted a Bofors gun at 90 meters with 0% exposure, still wouldn't shoot. I retargeted the original squad and two more turns went by without hime firing a shot. What am I doing wrong? I'm about to have him fix bayonet and do a solo banzai charge on the Bofors! Elite my butt. Do I have the only conscientious objector in the German Army? DavidI Snipers don't shoot at targets less than 100m away, something to do with self preservation. Check you manual. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holman Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 74 meters is probably too close. A sniper knows that he'll be dead meat when spotted, and he'll always prefer to take shots at opponents less likely to see and kill him. I generally don't use target orders with snipers at all. They're fairly idiosyncratic (being loners and all), but they'll usually make good use of their weapons when it's safe to do so. Let the sniper pick his own target. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Your problem is that he's 'Elite'. Basically, he's better at his job than you are at yours! EXTREME fire displine. Won't waste his ammo on grunts but will put a hole through a tank commander's helmet at 300m. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David I Posted December 30, 2004 Author Share Posted December 30, 2004 Stikkypixie, Yeah, Read the book. Read the book. Everybody, Thanks alot. I was wondering why the elite guy wouldn't do what Regular Snipers had done for me plenty of times. Must not have gotten a sniper in that close undetected before. Happy New Year All, DavidI 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securityguard Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 I had a sniper shoot at squads from 100m or so. He was crack, didn't get detected. He hesistated a ton though from what I remember, kept having to manually give him targets each turn. He would fire the start of a turn then untarget. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitterboy101 Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Try using a covered arc and see if that helps. It works for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Here's a thought that just occurred to me. Will Sharpshooters fire on any target at any range if there are enemy personnel within 100 meters that might spot him? If the programming is consistent, it would seem to me that he wouldn't, but I have no empirical evidence on the question. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David I Posted December 30, 2004 Author Share Posted December 30, 2004 Mike, I will find out soon. David 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiggDogg Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Generally, snipers will not fire at anything under 100 meters. While in good covering terrain, they are more likely to fire and be most effective between 200 and 500 meters. Also, one can order a sniper to fire at a particular target. However, they generally do a pretty fair job of choosing the juiciest and most lucrative targets on their own. This fact should be considered. An elite sniper firing at the proper range, 200 to 500 meters, should be quite effective on infantry crews (AT teams, mg crews, mortar crews) and tank commanders. In fact, he is so good that he may fire away his ammo too quickly. You may have to have him hide or restrict his line of fire to the shorter ranges in the 200 to 500 meter zone. Cheers, Richard 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willbell Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 I'm beginning to like snipers, when I can get them. I played a Cecina battle recently. When I saw the Allied tanks coming across the fields I slipped a sniper into a nice comfy spot, with plenty of scattered trees and a little elevation, and left him to his own devices. That dude spanked those tank commanders. Gave me all kinds of time to line a Tiger up on them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarker Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 I've played that scenario and had the same problem, with a twist. I snuck the sniper in so close he wouldn't shoot, and then when I gave him orders to target, he didn't until an enemy got really close. No ammo was expended, thought it was a bug. Sidearm at close range (like a tank crew) as he won't shoot the rifle EVER under 100 yds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willbell Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Pull him back, put him where he's hard to see, let him concentrate on his targets, he's a sniper, he doesn't need to be close. In the Cecina case I had him way back in scattered trees between buildings, he really had a keyhole to shoot through. But he was lined up on the ridge that the tanks would have to go over. So when he nailed the TCs the tanks forze in place which gave my Tiger great targets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirocco Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Sharpshooters also provide a good long range spotting ability, which should also be taken advantage of. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 In CMBO I used to use Sharpshooters as scouts all the time. They are cheap, fairly stealthy, and as mentioned have good spotting abilities. I would usually get one or two per company of infantry and be sure to back them up with at least a platoon in case they found something or ran into trouble. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willbell Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Hey that's a new one on me! They can actually see farther than infantry? Is this due to the scope, or are the snipers modeled as carrying binoculars? I know I seem lame about snipers, but I only just started really thinking about how to use them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Lucke Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Hmmm, I seem to have the opposite problem with snipers: Can't get them to not shoot at close-in targets --- with their pistol, that is. Always giving away their position by pot-shooting with their small-arm, when they should be lurking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stikkypixie Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Originally posted by von Lucke: Hmmm, I seem to have the opposite problem with snipers: Can't get them to not shoot at close-in targets --- with their pistol, that is. Always giving away their position by pot-shooting with their small-arm, when they should be lurking. Have you tried using the hide command? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Why bother stopping them shooting? I've never seen a sharpshooter give their position away by using their side arm. Rather, the fire coming from an unknown source can completly nix an attack by pinning units. I've had a sharpshooter within 5-10m of enemy units, firing his sidearm and not being spotted. Then he decided to use his rifle, and was instantly spotted and killed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 IMHO, one of the best things about snipers is their effect on your opponent. As soon as they here that retort anywhere near the AFV's they button them & keep them buttoned. And if not - even better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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