Andreas Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 NEWSFLASH!!!! ****Stop Press**** Ground attack jockey thinks older ground attack jockey is hot. Scroll down to read other items: 1) 90% of nerds would not turn down a date with Salma Hayek 2) Great White Shark not a vegetarian 3) Day follows night All the best Andreas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 NEWSFLASH!!!! ****Stop Press**** Ground attack jockey thinks older ground attack jockey is hot. Scroll down to read other items: 1) 90% of nerds would not turn down a date with Salma Hayek 2) Great White Shark not a vegetarian 3) Day follows night All the best Andreas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael kenny Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Feet back on the ground time. Rudel claims 500+ tank kills. Did he claim 1000 and someone halved it? I think not. So Is Rudel the sole exception to the routine overclaiming? Did he alone never get it wrong? In 'Black Cross Red Star, Air War Over The Eastern Front' (various Volumes) there are detailed charts for German and Soviet kill claims for aircraft alongside the actual losses. Take 1942 for example: German claims = 17313. Russian loss (combat only)= 9100. Russian claim = 8600 German loss (combat only)= 2500 Overclaiming was rife, to deny it is futile. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael kenny Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Feet back on the ground time. Rudel claims 500+ tank kills. Did he claim 1000 and someone halved it? I think not. So Is Rudel the sole exception to the routine overclaiming? Did he alone never get it wrong? In 'Black Cross Red Star, Air War Over The Eastern Front' (various Volumes) there are detailed charts for German and Soviet kill claims for aircraft alongside the actual losses. Take 1942 for example: German claims = 17313. Russian loss (combat only)= 9100. Russian claim = 8600 German loss (combat only)= 2500 Overclaiming was rife, to deny it is futile. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hetzer38 Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 ...(quite a lot of) this thread is meant to investigate the level of overclaiming, not to deny it,... Regards, Hetzer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hetzer38 Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 ...(quite a lot of) this thread is meant to investigate the level of overclaiming, not to deny it,... Regards, Hetzer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael kenny Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Originally posted by Hetzer38: ...quite a lot of this thread is meant to investigate the level of overclaiming, not to deny it,... The argument was resolved by the Germans themselves in 1944. At least a 50% overclaim. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael kenny Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Originally posted by Hetzer38: ...quite a lot of this thread is meant to investigate the level of overclaiming, not to deny it,... The argument was resolved by the Germans themselves in 1944. At least a 50% overclaim. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hetzer38 Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 ...claims which lead to credits...like those of Rudel, Korol, Hübsch, Stüdemann, etc. Alright, so we discuss the level of "overcrediting" too... Cheers, Hetzer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hetzer38 Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 ...claims which lead to credits...like those of Rudel, Korol, Hübsch, Stüdemann, etc. Alright, so we discuss the level of "overcrediting" too... Cheers, Hetzer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael kenny Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Originally posted by Hetzer38: ...claims which lead to credits...like those of Rudel, Korol, Hübsch, Stüdemann, etc. The deduction of 50% was never made on the individual claims. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael kenny Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Originally posted by Hetzer38: ...claims which lead to credits...like those of Rudel, Korol, Hübsch, Stüdemann, etc. The deduction of 50% was never made on the individual claims. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 Originally posted by Andreas: NEWSFLASH!!!! ****Stop Press**** Ground attack jockey thinks older ground attack jockey is hot. Scroll down to read other items: 1) 90% of nerds would not turn down a date with Salma HayekBah - you must work in PR. You cannot turn down what you are never offered! 2) Great White Shark not a vegetarianEver heard of "you are what you eat? We are all vegetarians, cos everything we eat started with vegetables as the loest part of hte food chain. 3) Day follows nightThere you go making wild unsubstantiated claims again - night actualy follws day =- tyhe first thing was a big bang - bangs are bright, so the very first thing ever was daytime!! All the best Prove it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 Originally posted by Andreas: NEWSFLASH!!!! ****Stop Press**** Ground attack jockey thinks older ground attack jockey is hot. Scroll down to read other items: 1) 90% of nerds would not turn down a date with Salma HayekBah - you must work in PR. You cannot turn down what you are never offered! 2) Great White Shark not a vegetarianEver heard of "you are what you eat? We are all vegetarians, cos everything we eat started with vegetables as the loest part of hte food chain. 3) Day follows nightThere you go making wild unsubstantiated claims again - night actualy follws day =- tyhe first thing was a big bang - bangs are bright, so the very first thing ever was daytime!! All the best Prove it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Salt Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 Originally posted by Stalin's Organist: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Andreas: 2) Great White Shark not a vegetarianEver heard of "you are what you eat? We are all vegetarians, cos everything we eat started with vegetables as the loest part of hte food chain. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Salt Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 Originally posted by Stalin's Organist: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Andreas: 2) Great White Shark not a vegetarianEver heard of "you are what you eat? We are all vegetarians, cos everything we eat started with vegetables as the loest part of hte food chain. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 To show that I was never taught Latin: argumentum reductum ad tuberosum Or, in (bad) German Hassaufhauptinhaltdasmachstdueinkartoffel 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 To show that I was never taught Latin: argumentum reductum ad tuberosum Or, in (bad) German Hassaufhauptinhaltdasmachstdueinkartoffel 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 Kartoffelverwandlungsargumentehass. "These things are not words, they are alphabetical processions." - Mark Twain http://www.crossmyt.com/hc/linghebr/awfgrmlg.html All the best Andreas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 Kartoffelverwandlungsargumentehass. "These things are not words, they are alphabetical processions." - Mark Twain http://www.crossmyt.com/hc/linghebr/awfgrmlg.html All the best Andreas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hetzer38 Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 Originally posted by Andreas: Kartoffelverwandlungsargumentehass. Wasn't that the "Un-word" of the year 2006 in Germany? Cheers, Hetzer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hetzer38 Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 Originally posted by Andreas: Kartoffelverwandlungsargumentehass. Wasn't that the "Un-word" of the year 2006 in Germany? Cheers, Hetzer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 Ah, well, the perils of owning a German-English dictionary and the desire to have a go despite a lack of understanding of the grammar. Naturally I got it backwards, although 50% of the words are right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 Ah, well, the perils of owning a German-English dictionary and the desire to have a go despite a lack of understanding of the grammar. Naturally I got it backwards, although 50% of the words are right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 Did they install new forum software regarding the 300 post bug? If not - close that thread and open another one. Gruß Joachim 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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