Screeny Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 What is the ideal position/location for AA guns?? In case they main task is to actually defend against enemy Aircraft?? Can AA gun effectively spot and retalliate against aircraft when placed in Scattered trees?? gr Screeny 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappy Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 My AA guns do open up and fire at aircraft when in scattered trees, so that's where I tend to put them. I don't know how effective they are there v. open ground. The truth is, I've never shot down an aircraft in either case. My thinking is that having flak flying around longer is more important that its accuracy in driving off bombers. Have there been any tests of this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruceov Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 To get the best out of AA guns they must have a clear field of view to the sky. Unfortunately that means leaving them out in the open on top of a hill. Everything else is a compromise between a good field of view and safety. I have found guns disturbingly effective in shooting down planes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aco4bn187inf Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 I've had an AA gun score a kill on aircraft while the gun was sandwiched between two buildings, hoping to ambush tanks. So it seems that buildings don't interfere with AA fire. (?) Also, the German 88 doesn't seem to act as an AA gun in CMBB, despite its famous effectiveness in that role historically. Does anyone know wether certain units used only AA ammo, and others not? I have read a story of a unit of 88's, dedicated to the AA role in Normandy, which was forced at pistol point by a German officer to shoot at British tanks, destroying a multitude of them. So it would seem that the same 88 units could act as AA or AT guns at will? I'd be curious to hear anything anyone knows about this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaylord Focker Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 The 88 was used as anti aircraft against level bombers, not the low flying and fast moving tactical bombers and fighters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMuhammed Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Yes, the 88 was a strategic AA asset rather than a tactical one. Their only hope to bring down a fighter was to catch it in a fixed barrage, and for that you need a bunch of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beta1 Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 AA guns can and do shoot down fighters very effectively, esp the quad 20 flak. However their other important use in CM is in the light AT role. The 37mm flak eats ACs, HTs, thin skinned TDs, etc for breakfast due to the high ROF, and very high muzzle velocity. They are also good at harrasing infantry, and drop light buildings quickly. These uses can be "contriversial" and many players dont like it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Harrison Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 I have always had a problem with getting my AA to open up. I try and place them in a position where they have a good visibility to the sky and some cover {brush, wheat field, and sometimes scattered trees}. Planes come and they rarely fire. Is there a variable aircract spotting factor involved? When they do see them, I have never brought one down. The main use that I see AA's used for is a anti-vehicle role, especially the 37mm's. Chad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 It usually helps if it happens to be facing to the direction from which the Jabo is coming. If I have more than one, I put them to face different ways to be sure. Or then have them some (not too great) distance from your main force (the contested battlefield) and facing that way, as the plane will approach them your AA might pick it. Experience should help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Harrison Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 Thanks for the tip. I am in a QB right now and expect some jabo's to show up and I have AA waiting for them in scattered trees. Ill post back results if some jabo's show. Chad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affentitten Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 I often place AA in scattered trees well back from the front line and it's not unusual for them to score a kill. Of course, the only way you'll ever know they've got a kill is by checking at the end of the battle, because there is no obvious explosion that I've ever seen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl Carrot Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 It would be listed in the kill stats for the gun as well 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aco4bn187inf Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 Another issue I would consider for placement of AA assets is range- units like the quad .50 halftrack will probably be much less effective if they are too far away from the units they are trying to protect. I havent tested this but I'm sure the designers have not overlooked it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affentitten Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 I think the manual also says that AA fire, even if it doesn't kill the plane, will affect the accuracy of its target runs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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