Hans Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 As derived from the 446 scenarios at Scenario Depot Soviets vs German 346 Soviets vs Finnish 34 Soviets vs Hungarians 10 Soviets vs Romanians 10 Partisans vs Germans 10 Soviets vs Italians 7 Romanians vs Hungarians 4 Polish vs Germans 4 Partisans vs Hungarians 2 11 Other combinations 6 Sub Total 433 No nationalities shown 13* Total 446 *most of these are scenarios outside of the Eastern Front, Korea, China and the Spanish Civil War. What no Partisans versus Finnish? The world will not be complete unless that is done! Hans 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted August 13, 2003 Author Share Posted August 13, 2003 Three more pieces of data and I shall leave you in peace. Why would you do this Hans? Looking for areas where scenarios haven't been built and also to see where they have, trying to see where the "taste" lies. Types of battles 145 are Axis actions 54 assaults 80 attack 11 probe 153 meeting engagements 139 are Allied actions 54 assaults 76 attack 9 probe The even structure of this surprizes me!! Historical 93 Semi-historical 210 Fictional 143 And finally for amusement: German battles by troop type Inf 224 Mech 131 Cav 13 Mtn 5 Security 9 SS inf 11 SS mech 32 SS cav 3 SS mtn 0 (what! somebody better get cracking) luft 4 Luft mech 1 Airborne 7 Volkstrum 4 Ski 0 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 You're just full of <s>useless</s> useful information aren't you Hans. BTW, you don't happen to be an accountant do you? Regards Jim R. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted August 13, 2003 Author Share Posted August 13, 2003 Useless MON DIEU Accountant never : ] :eek: Actually from a scenario designing angle it is useful it shows where designer at least are interested in and where there are "holes" places and areas design has not taken place yet.......what no SS mountain troops in scenario - 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Originally posted by Kanonier Reichmann: ...BTW, you don't happen to be an accountant do you?Not that there's anything wrong with that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Harrison Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 If this were open to voting, I would definatly place my vote for G's and A's {Germans versus Americans}, late war. Soon we will be able to put that together with all new goodness Chad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanachai Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Originally posted by Dave H: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Kanonier Reichmann: ...BTW, you don't happen to be an accountant do you?Not that there's anything wrong with that. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hensworth Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Perhaps the German censors would like to take note of the fact that the SS have attracted, if anything, LESS than their fair share of attention. My faith in the CM community abides. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Originally posted by Seanachai: You PC apologist. Of course there's something wrong with that! And I, for one, am sick of people pretending there's not. Just couldn't leave this touchy subject alone, could you?? Sir, for that remark I'd normally challenge you to a CMBB QB, on behalf of bean-counters everywhere. However, I supect that you, like the rest of the denizens of Minnesota, have a difficult time using a computer keyboard now that winter has come again and your hands are encased in mittens for the next 10 months. That reminds me: Is it true that in Minnesota the decimal system never caught on, because everyone wearing mittens could only count to 4? Just curious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted August 13, 2003 Author Share Posted August 13, 2003 Gentlemen Please take the pengy and mastergoodle subdribble outside please. If you don't you may find your threads filled with unnecessary knowledge and facts. Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Originally posted by Hans: Gentlemen Please take the pengy and mastergoodle subdribble outside please. If you don't you may find your threads filled with unnecessary knowledge and facts. Thanks My apologies for diluting your thread. I place all the blame squarely on Seanachai. Actually the analysis you have performed is very interesting. I am curious why you only researched the German battles by troop type, but not the Soviets. Any chance of a follow-up on the Soviets, since by your figures they are in 407 of the total 446 scenarios? :confused: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanachai Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Originally posted by Hans: Gentlemen Please take the pengy and mastergoodle subdribble outside please. If you don't you may find your threads filled with unnecessary knowledge and facts. Thanks Bah! Putting knowledge and facts in the Goodale thread would be like putting Michelangelo's David in a dog kennel. After they found they couldn't eat it or fight with it, they'd simply lift their legs on it. The Peng Thread, on the other hand, appreciates knowledge and facts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Originally posted by Seanachai: Bah! Putting knowledge and facts in the Goodale thread would be like putting Michelangelo's David in a dog kennel. After they found they couldn't eat it or fight with it, they'd simply lift their legs on it.Post of the day, 13 Aug 2003 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardosy Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 Originally posted by Hans: What no Partisans versus Finnish? The world will not be complete unless that is done! Hans Because the Finnish never fought against partisans. They was partisans against the regular soviet troops, who occupied their country. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 Originally posted by bardosy: Because the Finnish never fought against partisans.Innnnnncorrect! There were plenty of Partisan patrols sent on sabotage missions into Finnish territory, and at times they were pursued by Finnish forces. But none of what I've read about them would be suitable for an interesting scenario. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikko H. Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 Hmmm... I believe the partisans who made raids into Finnish territory during the Continuation War were different from the partisans who operated in the German occupied territories. The former were formations of the regular Red Army, whereas the latter were irregulars. I might be wrong, however... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted August 14, 2003 Author Share Posted August 14, 2003 In the area occupied by Finnish troops North of Leningrad were these Finns or Russian civilians, ie were there Partisans about? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wings7 Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 Hans, Thanks for the info...it is always welcomed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 I know practically nothing about how the Soviets organized their partisan activities in general. But I think there is a widespread myth that Soviet partisans would have spontaneously started resisting the occupiers, which can confuse us here. Partisan movement was always organized from the top, but the main difference between those operating behind the German lines and those behind the Finnish lines, is that in southern regions there was plenty of Russian population who would willingly or unwillingly support the partisans. This meant that there partisans could sustain their operations for years, recruiting new fighters and collecting tax (supplies) from the populace. But up north, there was either the occupied areas of eastern Karelia, which was just wilderness with very few Russian civilians left from evacuation (and many of those left were put into concentration camps (not in the Nazi death camp sense) anyway), or areas populated by enemy civilians. Under such conditions any partisan operations had to be more like long-range patrols, returning back to own lines after some time to get replacements and supplies and bring prisoners. Volunteers were chosen for these trips, and there were both Russians as well as Finns and Karelians (Karelians are a "lost tribe" of Finns, so to say). I think they mostly came from the Karelian Republic, because the organisation of partisan activities in the area was given to the local authorities (I have read the war memoirs of the then president of the Karelian Republic (who explains as to why Finns succeeded so well in 1941, that almost all of Finnish soldiers carried a SMG) as well as a study on partisan activities in Pielisjärvi area). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Originally posted by Hans: What no Partisans versus Finnish? The world will not be complete unless that is done!Now the world is complete. Partisan Waltz Partisan Waltz AI Available for your testing pleasure... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trommelfeuer Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Thank you very much for this interesting information @ Hans! Regards, Sven 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Lucke Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Originally posted by Hans: ...what no SS mountain troops in scenario - Actually, I have two scenarios I was playing with, but never finished: One set during the Lapland War (obvious why I didn't finish (heh!) that one, since CMBB won't let you play in Finland during that period), and the other a race for the peak of Mt. Elbrus (highest point in USSR) in the Caucasus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzman Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Originally posted by Hans: SS mtn 0 (what! somebody better get cracking) Not true, one of the battles from the Barbrossa pack has SS mountain troops in Finland no less. Its called, CSDT-B-8 Nord. One of the SS Mountain Divisions was called Nord, and later SS Nordland Division. [ January 29, 2004, 07:24 PM: Message edited by: Panzerman ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denwad Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Volkssturm vs Soviet is my favorite, especially when you win against incredible odds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted January 29, 2004 Author Share Posted January 29, 2004 Hey this oldie but a goodie has come back Thanks Sergei, I can know die in peace! Sorry Panzerman must have missed it on the depot Trommelfeur, well the datas about 6 months old and missing about 250 scenarios! What no grog out there who has time to update? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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